Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[maverick]

This so shameful… defenseless ship was sunk, as no weapons was carried during training exercise. so low

 

[StrategicBear]

So what if iran dont consider teheran and the nuclear site as their most important asset thus let the city absorb the omb without AD, and focus their AD to more critical target that decide the life and dead of their civilization?

That's a good strategy too. Since the ChatGPT answer of 100 batteries for long-range SAM batteries is impossible for Iran to buy or build in a short time, so have to prioritize sites to defend, the capital if want to protect Supreme Leader, or nuclear sites if it's more important.

But definitely most important is AWACS.
Even before I asked ChatGPT, I always knew that Iran's AD would improve significantly if it has 3-4 AWACS planes and even just a small modern force of 48-64 4.5th gen fighters each with modern AESA radars, and most of these should do daily patrols, which could have prevented Iran from being surprise attacked like the SL assassination.

 

[SecularNationalist]

No matter how many times they try to hide effects of Iranian and Hezbollah missiles on Tel Aviv, the truth is coming out.

Those Irani cluster warhead missile footages we are seeing are causing some serious damage on ground. Though mostly it's sensored by Israel bcz it will demoralize the civilian population.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Inside Trump's War on Iran: The Truth​

I think most people here should watch this video, very good analysis on the goals and aims.

 

[r3alist]

Of course India was tacitly involved. To suggest otherwise is delusional. India is desperate for acceptance at the top table and will stab anyone in the back for the most meagre of benefits.

Just ask Ahmed Massoud of Panjshir.

Iran will know how this happened I'm sure

Iran has plenty of targets so it may not want to aggravate India at this point, there is also not much point in the Pak pov to highlight India because now it's just up to Iran to decide how they view India.

 

[r3alist]

 

[Master Chief]

"If Iran didn't attack the Gulf, it could have won the hearts and minds of the Gulf countries!!"

This myth being perpetuated that Iran "attacked" a GCC that was "neutral" or "minding its business" is getting silly now. Absolutely retarded to suggest GCC and Jordan were neutral when they were proudly shooting down Iranian missiles in the last conflict and this one!

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[RescueRanger]

British Defense Minister: I do not rule out participation in strikes on Iran. Everything we are currently doing regarding Iran is defensive, legal, and coordinated with allies.​

 

[StrategicBear]

Iran really screwed up not buying AWACS planes from Russia or China during the Obama Administration. Just having even 3-4 of them now would have helped to prevent surprise attacks and alert leaders that enemy planes or ALBMs are incoming, giving time for Supreme Leader(if he doesn't want to be martyred yet) to escape the ground zero area where enemy bombs/missiles will drop on.

 

[kimjongun]

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Very bad news for ukraine

More People will buy Russian Oil and it will fund their war machine

Expect Advances in Ukraine.. Putin prayed for times like this

EU shot itself in the foot supporting a crusade and now their debt trapped child ukraine is in trouble

 

[Aad80]

An Israeli just claimed that the Israeli regime is lying and that Israel is being pounded HARD.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Iran really screwed up not buying AWACS planes during the Obama Administration. Just having even 3-4 of them now would have helped to prevent surprise attacks and alert leaders that enemy planes or ALBMs are incoming, giving time for Supreme Leader(if he doesn't want to be martyred yet) to escape the ground zero area where enemy bombs/missiles will drop on.

they litr wanted to move the supreme leader but he didnt want to go and wanted to basically... die a martyr

 

[vizier]

For low and medium altitude sams work fine and smaller platforms can escape other air threats easier. This takes care of cruise missiles and drones like hermes,reaper. Also some convergence to high altitude is possible like for example pantsyr rocket(not the truck remove the truck it is not usable at all only take the rockets from the pantsyr system and integrate it to your anti drone sam system) has 15km altitude 20km range and weighs 80kg.

For high altitude defense however there needs to be a paradigm shift away from sams. Improving the sam systems like S300+ or HQ9+ would eventually come to a halt. There are functional constraints that limits those systems. Bulky systems are detected and destroyed immediately on the move or while they are static and these systems radars need continious pinpoint accuracy to track planes to not to miss makes them totally ineffective when jamming takes over or low observable threats.

The future of high altitude defense as a new paradigm is drones in my opinion and man in the loop control to take down enemy planes. Cheaper jet engine drones like shaheed-238 Hadid 110 with lightweight-manpad addition can operate at 10km altitude challanging enemy fighters. Also there are complex drones like Turkey's Kizilelma or Iran's Qaher-313. There needs to be an onboard sensor and man in the loop control at the ground station to take down enemy planes. Less accurate radars like long wavelength or pasive radars can be used together with these systems.

For bombers like B52 and others I think another drone option is rocket engine fixed wing drone. Even in ww2 these planes had about 12 km altitude and 40km range. Currently higher mach speeds and altitudes are possible ofcourse. When a site is bombed by B52 for example by dumb bombs the rocket plane can be launched and with its onboard sensor can engage the B52s with a2a missiles of its own. Bombers are generally slow and can be caught after they bombed some area. Ground Radar(long wavelength or passive) assistance will be a bonus though.