Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Blain2]

Self-defense? Start the goddamned war using American largess against another country and then claim "self-defense". These bastards have some nerve.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Zionist plans for India beside Iran , speech inside India

• India gave port access to US navy
• India a long term Russian Ally who is largest purchaser of Russian oil
• Israel used Indian workers for June 2025 attacks

Zionist messenger , delivering message to Businesses in India
you will never be allowed to attain a certain level , we don't want you to compete with us in region

 

[RescueRanger]

As your simulation showed, the Iranian strategy makes good sense thus far. Keeping a grand finale in reserve for Israel at the end, IF it comes to that, would be the logical option at that point, IF it can be executed. Thus, keeping it local, with pressure on the Strait, suffices for now.

That is where all the bombers you so meticulously tabulate become even more important.

It is still anybody's war to win.

Hmm... on the fence as usual then.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

This is just to calm the oil market when it opens later tonight. I expect the price to be 100 USD on Monday.

Iran should keep fighting for another 3 weeks.. then the world is in a big kimchi. When oil storage hits capacity (called "tank tops"), the system breaks down. Oil fields become damaged, will have to shut down and restarting is costly and will take a lot of time.

 

[Fasbre2]

The main concern is unless Trump orders carpet bombing of Iran, the psycho Netanyahu will use a nuke against US wishes and expect the US to clean up the mess ..

 

[Eşbah]

US strategic oil reserve sits near its lowest level in decades

200 USD per barrel is coming....

 

[Blain2]

The main concern is unless Trump orders carpet bombing of Iran, the psycho Netanyahu will use a nuke against US wishes and expect the US to clean up the mess ..

Iranians should have eaten grass to get the nukes. Their clergy has led them down the path of destruction unfortunately.

I recall when the 12 day war happened, Iranian masses on the net were asking what their leadership is waiting on and why they are not going for the bomb.

In this there is a lesson for Turkey, KSA to cross the nuclear threshold and even for Pakistan to enhance and harden its nuclear inventory and posture. Tough times ahead for the Muslim world without this key deterrence in hand.

After Iran has been entirely neutered, the focus will shift to Turkey and Pakistan. Smaller countries like the UAE have already surrendered their security to the Zionist/American architecture, KSA sits on the borderline and will have to decide which way it wants to go.

 

[VCheng]

Hmm... on the fence as usual then.

Going by logic and facts, one must choose that option. War is never totally predictable, and taking the results for granted simply on the basis of overwhelming numbers can still be a mistake that many have made in the past.

If USA has firepower, Iran has political and theological unity. If USA cannot achieve an early decisive advantage, its own internal complexities can defeat its effort. If Iran has prepared for a long and difficult conflict well, then it just might win, especially if it sinks a few oil tankers and shuts down the Strait for a few months or even more.

Anybody who favors one side or the other at this point is probably going more by emotions than logic, IMO.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[FUB]

 

[StrategicBear]

It only took 9 days

Permanent End is until what criteria has been met?

Degradation of enemy military capabilities? Unlikely unless Iran had more accurate and faster missiles able to wipe out most of Israel's F-35 fleet as it about to land or in repairs

Making Trump and Satanyahu fold and accept Iran's red lines concerning enrichment and BM rights? Unlikely unless Iran hands them a huge strategic defeat.

Accomplishing Strategic Victory? This means Iran needs to win the war by making the enemy lose all its strategic advantages to result in a clear strategic defeat. For Israel, Strategic Defeat would mean permanent or long-term disability to function as a state/country. This would entail losing all of its desalination plants, power plants, oil refineries, all major industries/factories related to its Tech Industry including the plants for Intel and AI-related data centers. Ammonia Plant in Negev, Dimona facility, all government buildings, all major bunkers where Israeli civilians hide in, all THAAD, Arrow, David's Sling radar and support infrastructure, all weapons producing factories, etc.

Me: So what exactly is Iran aiming here for a "Permanent End to War"? A Strategic Defeat for Israel like the one theorized above?

 

[Master Chief]

Looking forward to GBNews and that numpty Patrick Christys wailing about "imported sectarianism" now. Then again, they are BOTH strategic assets against Iran so he will probably stay mum.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

JUST IN:

Iranian Foreign Minister Araghchi says there won’t be any “ceasefires” anymore, only a permanent end of the war:

“There should be a permanent end of the war. And unless we get to that, I think we need to continue fighting for the sake of our people and our security.”




Iran's basically saying: permanent peace or permanent war. No more pauses

 

[Master Chief]

No need for conspiracy, people die from many reasons. Could be a heart attack, traffic accidents, food poisoning . . . During 1991 Iraq war, more troops died by traffic accidents than by enemy fire! Driving in strange places without familiar signage, signaling & lighting can be dangerous.

Sure thing Rakesh. Delhi Belly did him over.

 

[r3alist]