Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

FUB said:
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someone has lost his beans... going rogue massively, his plan he orchestrated has failed miserably.
 
iron shrapnel said:
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Le Putin to Europe...
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Europe now has to decide between a natural energy partner or liquified American farts...
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Putin is Russian government
 
FUB said:
How things change so quickly- " Unconditional Surrender" to maybe it is not in our best interest to continue the war
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This is based on an Opinion piece by David Ignatius, who is another Zio with a permanent job in American media. I think it's too early for talk of an exit ramp and this could also be disinformation by Israelis. If you look at movement of assets and current discussions, seems Trump is going to try another escalation before quitting.
 
Watandar said:
Why do you say that ? The Israelis have the heaviest stocks of all intercepts and most of the Iranian missiles are still not making it to target. I read around here it will be another 2 to 3 weeks before the Israeli stockpile runs out.

It's the GCC that is running very low on interceptor stock and that's why you see a scramble there, like the transfers from South Korea.
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they have vast interceptors stocks

for instance, SM6 and Sm3 (deadliest of all interceptors), have'nt been deployed yet

then, there are EU interceptors

problem is that IR know the location of radars, so they are taking down radars, which makes these interceptors in-effective (briefly)
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Perhaps a cross channel invasion along the lines of Operation Sea Lion. Given the narrowest point is a little over 20 miles, President Trump can stand there with his super duper high power binoculars and see the beaches of Iran.
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You barely survived normandia and you hope to invade shores in era of drones and rocket launchers, good luck with that.
 
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Le Putin to Europe...
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Europe now has to decide between a natural energy partner or liquified American farts...
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US LNG is several times more expensive than the piped Russian gas.

The US feeding of its own vassals. And the end of German industry based on cheap energy.
 
FUB said:
How things change so quickly- " Unconditional Surrender" to maybe it is not in our best interest to continue the war
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There will no ceasefire with the childkilling entity.
 
no ceasefire until:

1: written guarantee of no unprovoked aggression from now on.

2: lifting of all sanctions.

3: iran has the right to get nukes as long as israel has nukes.
 
jamal18 said:
US LNG is several times more expensive than the piped Russian gas.

The US feeding of its own vassals. And the end of German industry based on cheap energy.
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The cucking of Europe has been a slow yet obvious dilemma... No one to blame but themselves. NATO made no sense after collapse of USSR and formation of EU
 
FUB said:
How things change so quickly- " Unconditional Surrender" to maybe it is not in our best interest to continue the war
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The Israelis aren't stupid, they know they've lost the war. Theyre now in damage control, and trying to find an off ramp that let's them declare mission accomplished.

Netanyahu is going to lose the coming election. This was a disaster for him.

Trump is likely going to lose mid-terms worse than he was already going to lose as this was a disaster for him as well.

Iran itself will need to rethink its strategy. It lost too much, even if its winning the war. This sort of war is unsustainable in the long term.

The first thing they need to do is a complete purge of the military of traitors, and start building relationships with neighbouring nations for intelligence sharing. Get those nations to help catch spies, sort of like 5 eyes.


Next, this war once again proves that Iran desperately needs an air force. It doesn't need to be 5th gen, they just need air cover to contest air space long enough to launch missiles in relative safety and retreat. They should not be buying Russian. They should look at Chinese at this point completely; buy Chinese Flankers, or J-10Cs, and eventually try and buy 5th gens from them, because the Russians will never sell the Su-57 to Iran.
 
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