Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

With Trump essentially doubling down, I wonder if he's actually stupid enough to start a land war in Iran.

If he is, then American power in the region is basically finished.

The only place they can do a land invasion from is Iraq, and in doing so he will destabilise Iraq after the USA has just about bought some order back to Iraq.

He is a bull in a China Shop right now for sure.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

People keep mentioning the so-called defense pact between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. However, no one in Pakistan knows what the deal is. It was made by a military strongman who has no legitimate or constitutional right to be ruling Pakistan or signing secret deals on its behalf.

In reality, there’s no deal, other than one unelected man making promises to another unelected man. Nothing to do with the people of either country.

Exactly my point. Their is no mandate, no discussion in parliament, no national consensus, no clarity. A pact is a serious agreement, whereby reneging on commitments is serious. Concocted by a self styled field marshall and towed along by lip serving criminals doesn't bode well.

 

[Aziqbal]

and there you have from defence secretaries of 3 nations

3 biggest navies from around the world have said they are not going to send any
warships to escort oil tankers out of the straights of Hormuz

UK, France and Japan all have said no

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/us-israel-iran-war-2026/card/japan-won-t-send-forces-to-help-with-mine-removal-in-strait-fvUqfhYi5Opp6xItlNQY?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqcTotP1PThmWKLmHmEanxuIB99bx902MxGSPLoMydfzDAnifftF-MUkcxhDflQ%3D&gaa_ts=69b6ac6b&gaa_sig=K77YfW_9uO7qvFmQJh-G76ECUZA_OQYG1S-AUkMPQhvp8Zh4q2IdA7lSpP8smRct8vB37H4Zo8YCPm6Ij2_8SA%3D%3D

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

If Iran will survive this war then make no mistake Iran will appear as 10 times dangerous on the world stage later. It's geopolitics profile will go up and Iran will become the first nation to defeat US and isreal in recent decades. Everywhere else US and Iran succeeded in their war objectives. Iraq,Libya ,Syria etc. Even Afghanistan to some extent bcz the comparative losses they suffered were almost nothing.
Not just that Iran will learn valuable lessons from this war. And next time it will be almost impossible to defeat Iran. Isreal will get very weaker with no US support and greater isreal will stay a wet dream only.

you should study Battle of Trench (events that preceded the war and what happened during the war) more deeply (if they exist!)

 

[tsunset]

 

[Lehrasap]

These are pearls of wisdom devoid of love and hate , beyond the comprehension of your primitive mind .,. take a hike now.

If wisdom of Saudia and its supporters lies in inviting and sucking ... of far right fanatic crusaders, then please do host them and keep on providing them with the services that they demand.

 

[r3alist]

Ffs you would think he gives a flying turd about Indians? He hates brown. Hes a zionist - he hates everyone but the chosen ones. These Indians think they will become accepted?
Ffs words fail me sometimes

When you are denatured from persistent propaganda, and hatred of a millennia of anger is in your psyche this is what you get

People are seemingly learning around the world but actually other regions are taking more time and mind space

In relation to this topic, the Iranian response has been potentially counterintuitive because if the logic is those who support my enemy are my enemy then how do you not consider the wife to the husband, as modi described.

That is aside from all of the other material support that they have between themselves, and the friendship trust the Iranians still have with respect to the navy and everything that happened there


Seems to be a choice to look the other way, I don't entirely understand it

 

[maverick]

seems like all our successfully intercepted

 

[Ravenman]

And I also think we're starting to get way off topic which is quite easy for some folks.

The reason your President started this war was to get away offtopic from the Epstein case.

 

[mythbuster]

If wisdom of Saudia and its supporters lies is in inviting and sucking ... of far right fanatic crusaders, then please do host them keep on providing them with the services that they demand.

I have no love for Saudi Arabia , allow me to be devil's advocate for a while.....Biden during his presidential campaign bad mouthed MBS and Saudi Arabia , guess what happened after he won the election ? His first official visit was Saudi Arabia and his body language was that of a khassiani billi.....who were the 9/ 11 perpetrators ? 15 of them were Saudi Arabians and who got screwed ? AHH , the poor Afghans , Iraqi , Libyans , Syrians and now Iranians.....now tell me who's sucking whom .... it's Saudis who are paying the piper and calling the tune ....this is my last post to you ... intellectual dwarfs like you are not worth interacting with.

 

[Feroze]

I have no love for Saudi Arabia , allow me to be devil's advocate for a while.....Biden during his presidential campaign bad mouthed MBS and Saudi Arabia , guess what happened after he won the election ? His first official visit was Saudi Arabia and his body language was that of a khassiani billi.....who were the 9/ 11 perpetrators ? 15 of them were Saudi Arabians and who got screwed ? AHH , the poor Afghans , Iraqi , Libyans , Syrians and now Iranians.....now tell me who's sucking whom .... it's Saudis who are paying the piper and calling the tune ....this is my last post to you ... intellectual dwarfs like you are not worth interacting with.

Usually I have defended Saudi Arabia, and will continue to do so.
Saudi Arabia usually has made the right moves.

 

[j_hungary]

If you are doing a non stand off weapon bombing run then they will be below 40,000 feet.

Which is still in reach of a hidden air defense system, a loitering weapon (358/359), etc.

They wouldn’t take the risk. All the videos I have seen of B-52s during this war they been dropping JSAAMs. Just like the Russians they are just flinging cruise missiles from the border regions with their bombers.

They don't need to go below 40k for a bomb run, especially so if they are doing a JDAM run (which is more advantageous at a higher altitude because it means longer maneuver time)

There have been B-1s going deep inside Iran since last week; if they are doing it on B-1, they are doing that in a B-52.

 

[Bengal71]

and there you have from defence secretaries of 3 nations

3 biggest navies from around the world have said they are not going to send any
warships to escort oil tankers out of the straights of Hormuz

UK, France and Japan all have said no

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If the US gets obliterated, the Japanese will be very happy. They are very nationalistic and don't like US occupation of their country.

 

[Ali_Baba]

If he is so scared to escort tankers in the strait of Hormuz, I wonder how the marines will invade Kharg island?

Airborne Para drop / helicopter drop from Kuwait/Iraq most likely.

 

[Bengal71]

Airborne Para drop / helicopter drop from Kuwait/Iraq most likely.

Man that will be a scene to behold. I would love to see it. The Iranian army will make sheesh kebab out of them. We shall see the mettle of much vaunted US Marines.