Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

shapurzolaktaf said:
Not af all. Very weak arguments with all respect. US-Arab relation = master-slave relation, where security, military, future and past is decided by the master.

Iran India relation is about trade only (very low volume compared to GCC-India trade)
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Cant argue with your POV, might be difference in perspective based on our Nationality.

You can call it master slave relation, and I can call it pure economical trade and technological advancement, Arabs are foolish easily fooled because they did not think they will need deterence, because of their nature of goals, development and tourism.
They trusted agreements on paper.

While Iran is purely looking at Dollar figures, not even trying to be friendly with any muslim country, especially Pakistan.
 
Goenitz said:
The overseas bases are the US's main advantage and can become a disadvantage if the resistance keeps getting these FPVs. The US cannot fight this infinite war.
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All American bases in the Middle East are really vulnerable to attacks. Already there is talk of evacuating all American military from Iraq to the Kurdistan region. But even that region is within targeting distance of rockets, sabotage, projectiles... Add to that, if/when the local populations rise against the alien presence in their midst.
I see Americans exiting the Middle East if Iran prevails in this conflict.
 
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....(continue).... That is the path this war may now be taking.
 
Immortals said:
Bibi is alive — he posted on his Twitter account a video of him at the cafe shop. Certaintly the coffee shop setting is staged and he is under severe security protection.

Which still points to something happening in his inner circle that caused him to go under heavy OpSEC

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Is security protection an unusual thing ? Would you like to see Netanyahu taking a stroll on the streets without security protection ?
 
EugeneP said:
But in the recent Israel-Gaza war, there was a lot of domestic opposition, protests and divisions. Even the university students showed energetic opposition. The only criticism I hear now is how Trump didn't get proper consent from Congress, concerns about cost of war, inflation, impact on electoral prospects of Republicans etc., All important but peripheral issues compared to asking is this war needed. I guess the public image of Iran is so poor that people who would normally question the wisdom of this war just don't have the motivation and drive to make a strong case.
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Except for a few body bags, the war on Iran has not reached the American bars and living room--yet! Not even the inflation or gas prices is blamed for this war--yet!
As to the Gaza-Israel war, yes, there was the public pressure but even that had started to subside into 2025, just like concern for the Russia-Ukraine war also subsided. People have lives to live and are becoming numb to the growing violence 'out there': Pocket books are more important than remote geopolitics.
 
Tamerlane said:
People keep mentioning the so-called defense pact between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. However, no one in Pakistan knows what the deal is. It was made by a military strongman who has no legitimate or constitutional right to be ruling Pakistan or signing secret deals on its behalf.

In reality, there’s no deal, other than one unelected man making promises to another unelected man. Nothing to do with the people of either country.
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whatever the pact is, it does not apply under current situation, Pact was formed after Israeli attack on Qatar, so mostly it will deal with KSA attacked directly by Israel etc. Protection and defence of Holy Lands is a responsibility of all Muslim, if threatened by non Muslims.

Presently Iran did not initiate a direct attack on KSA, Iran's attacks are defensive in nature and purely against US israel interests, KSA is getting affected, because they allow their land to be used.
 
Meengla said:
All American bases in the Middle East are really vulnerable to attacks. Already there is talk of evacuating all American military from Iraq to the Kurdistan region. But even that region is within targeting distance of rockets, sabotage, projectiles... Add to that, if/when the local populations rise against the alien presence in their midst.
I see Americans exiting the Middle East if Iran prevails in this conflict.
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It has broader implications, like the US no longer being a superpower if it draws from some regions.

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