Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

So you believe their injured numbers but not their deaths> They don't censor the injured but they do with deaths. I think this is just wishful thinking. Of the 250-300 strikes how many actually make impacts? And of those impacts how many are in places where humans are located?

Nobody knows how many impacted and where and thats the point. They are just not showing it because they are hiding, can you guess what or is it too hard ? They do-not-want-to-be-seen-taking-non-stop-hits.

Clusters cant be intercepted, last 1-1.5 weeks, we are seeing no proper interceptions of IRGC attack waves. Even if you go by half the 0.5 million Lbs of total lobbed warhead (discounting intercepted debris for sake of argument), thats still enough to **** up an entire city which makes sense by their own admitted 4000 hospitalized injuries and thousands of damaged or ruined buildings (some minor leaked evidence). What you are arguing is that somehow only <1 % casualty is happening for hospitalized or injured population which is nonsense or extremely biased thinking.

I'm well aware that their is a censor on on videos especially on military installations, but if their was this widespread destruction we would definitely have more footage of it.

You do realize they have complete official media blackout and police arrests and fines you if you leak anything? Compared to Iran we are getting like 1% footage from Israel.

Iran literally has had the internet cut off for two weeks and we are seeing videos everyday of the bombs and aftermath.

Yet media is allowed to cover everything, leaks are not stopped. There is Zero censorship policy by IRI. Having no internet means nothing when media coverage of impact is broadcasted and it matches US/Israel claim.

 

[IceCold]

THE GLOVES ARE COMING OFF!

This should have been hit from day 1. Like I said previously, if Iran needs to win this war, it needs to stop playing catch-up and, for once, take the initiative.
Iran's nuclear plants were hit during the 12-day war. Why was the Israeli Dimona nuclear plant not hit?

 

[Immortals]

Entrances maybe closed, but how effective are these attacks against what is inside those tunnels ? They can suppress these bases, but not necessarily take them out.

I suspect these are the anti ship missile tunnels near the coastline as the U.S. begins to try to open the strait by force.

 

[BHAN85]

Rumor is Larijani wanted a more moderate Supreme Leader and didn’t support Mojtaba.

Also I think his own hubris got to him thinking that having his daughter in America meant something and the Americans NEEDED him.

Too intelligent for his own good

USA ruling elite doesnt need Eurasia.

The more disorder in Eurasia the better for USA ruling elite interests.

It seems nobody wants to see it, neither vassals, neither even Iran.

USA ruling elite doesnt need so many slaves. The larger number of slaves, and the richer, the worst for USA interests, more energy and raw materials wasted in them.

Iran war is like tariffs, but in a stronger way, a way to spread economic mayhem and shrink economies.

Every time I see a USA vassal or enemy believing USA needs them for something, it's ridiculous AF.

If USA would need something from them, they hadn't started this war in first place.

BTW Larijani behavior is not too intelligent, it's too arrogant and vain, typical in ruling elites.

They could believe they are needed because they important in their own country, but for USA ruling elite: protected by two oceans, and with the only concern of China and raw material/energy supply, they are nothing at all.

 

[Immortals]

If anything, inside Iran, larijani clan is known as having deep ties with British Intel. Remember the Hand scandal from 1997 with MI6? Khatami openly talked about it back then but went quite over the years.

Agreed with too intelligent for his own good part.

I vividly remember that clan was getting too powerful post Ahmadinejad era and his power was knocked down a few pegs and they kind of disappeared only to come back in the last several years.

I never trusted them to be honest. Anyone who has their kids abroad in enemy nations while the domestic population suffers cannot be trusted to make the necessary sacrifices.

 

[Ali_Baba]

THE GLOVES ARE COMING OFF!

The cluster munitions warheads are "perfect" for this type of target. Just needs to up lots of fires, etc.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Cicero]

Nobody knows how many impacted and where and thats the point. They are just not showing it because they are hiding, can you guess what or is it too hard ? They do-not-want-to-be-seen-taking-non-stop-hits.

Clusters cant be intercepted, last 1-1.5 weeks, we are seeing no proper interceptions of IRGC attack waves. Even if you go by half the 0.5 million Lbs of total lobbed warhead (discounting intercepted debris for sake of argument), thats still enough to **** up an entire city which makes sense by their own admitted 4000 hospitalized injuries and thousands of damaged or ruined buildings (some minor leaked evidence). What you are arguing is that somehow only <1 % casualty is happening for hospitalized or injured population which is nonsense or extremely biased thinking.



You do realize they have complete official media blackout and police arrests and fines you if you leak anything? Compared to Iran we are getting like 1% footage from Israel.



Yet media is allowed to cover everything, leaks are not stopped. There is Zero censorship policy by IRI. Having no internet means nothing when media coverage of impact is broadcasted and it matches US/Israel claim.

Dude you're arguing IRI has no censorship policy yet they've literally shut down the internet. Neither country has a complete media blackout, you have reporters on both sides giving carefully tailored coverage for their own public consumption. I just think you're not making credible assumptions because you want something to be true. Reality is different. Your argument is essentially because their are 4000 reported injuries then they must be censoring deaths. My simple question is why do they not censor the number of injuries yet are able to hide all this physical destruction in major cities in a tiny country? It makes no sense.

 

[mythbuster]

I suspect these are the anti ship missile tunnels near the coastline as the U.S. begins to try to open the strait by force.

How strong are the defences there ? Would it result in heavy us casualties?

 

[BHAN85]

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At least a more worthy ruler than Bibi, with his son in Florida.

 

[Arash]

Netanyahu is dead. The rumors are true

So next Israeli targets should be Katz and the 2 idiots around him.

 

[Immortals]

 

[mangekyo]

Rumor is Larijani wanted a more moderate Supreme Leader and didn’t support Mojtaba.

That is not a rumor, even khamenei said he doesn’t want the SL position to be inheritable

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Don't be saying too much or they'd bomb yours, just for kicks!

 

[mangekyo]