Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

VCheng said:
An honest discussion on the questions you ask will quickly turn sectarian and hence is not possible in this forum.
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True true...not as if the other party is completely innocent here.

But there does need to be a moment of recknoning where you realize who the existential problem is.

At the end, it's the lust for power of these Arab kings which serves as leverage for the powers to be.

Had Pakistan been not so busy in looting it's own country, this was a prime opportunity for us to be something more than a gun for hire and play a leading diplomatic role. But a discussion for another day.
 
Starlord said:
Someone said that its a win win for Israel as Iran is hitting the Arabs, after the dust settle its Iran and Arabs who will be effected the most, Americans pack up their shit and go home, and Israel will get bail outs from most powerful economies in the world, also Israel have a very small population to feed and keep happy, the Arabs who were building strong economies, and military are now set back 1-2 decades, with most of their AD exhausted, and Oil/Gas infrastructure been hit... this is a brilliant strategy but Israel, they in fact undermine every enemy and potential enemy with this war, and also they don't care for what the world thinks about them, as long as they hold American govt by balls. And Israel's boldness to act with such decisiveness comes from their Genocide in Palestine while not a single Arab change their posture towards Israel, not even after they bomb Lebanon, Syria and Qatar. And now as Iran is hitting Arabs, and Arabs still have no clue what they are doing, its like people from outside the neighborhood coming and destroying their homes and instead of taking a stand they are just sitting with their A$$es. It almost feel like that Israel has turned the entire Arab world " Napunsak".
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Those people have no idea how reliant the US is on Arab oil money.

The war will mean Arabs not only cannot fund US stock market and debt - but they will have to pull out the money they have already invested.

Also, given the state of US debt and mood of its electorate - neither Israel or Arab bases will be rebuilt with US money.

It’s Iran that has nothing to lose given their country is already destroyed.

If they can destroy Israel and Arabs - they’ll at least be on a level playing field.

It also sets the marker for any future conflict.
 
SaadH said:
You think Arabs can force Israel/US off their soil and/or airspace. They are under hostage and have no say.
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They are under hostage because those Kings want to remain in power. The Jordanian midget wants to keep cosplaying as a tough man, Sisi wants to erect a new city, and Bahrain wants to keep an iron fist rule.

No one's saying to severe relations with anyone, but be smart about what you do rather than jumping at every opportunity to be a good boy.

All Arab investments are in the US/Europe, if OPEC can put forward a unified stance then there is some leverage to be had.

But these things take place over the course of years, now, as they lovingly say..."hor choopo".

Ras Laffan just got bombed. Expect things to get even messier.
 
It’s really starting lo look like trump and his troll brother Bibi have miscalculated they have said that Iran is nearly depleted I think Iran is roaring back to life they will take everyone down with this sinking boats damn if these GCC are about to see their economies rolled back by a decade or or more with Israel’s reconstruction being funded fully by trump
 
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