Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

albritani said:
I wouldn't say they are fighting back, firing some drones and BM which mostly do nothing isn't really fighting back for a nation of 100m, and this is with the US and Israel with their hands tied behind their back, Tehran could be flattened tomorrow using conventional weapons let alone nuclear.

The issue with the endgame is...they both hate each other, destruction is the only solution. Unless there was regime change and a change in the people's psyche which seems highly unlikely for either wide. So what are we left with, biannual wars? Iran would definitely use something more extreme if it was in their arsenal and Israel would love to but they know it's a lose lose situation. Until one side is removed then this either escalates, globally, or we see something crazy happen.
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The US publicly declared three main objectives for this war:
1. First and foremost, regime change. Trump explicitly said this on multiple occasions in his interviews.
2. Destruction of Iran's BM and drone capabilities.
3. Accessing the 440 kilograms of 60% HEU in Iran.

They have failed to achieve all of these strategic objectives so far.
So, it is not far from reality to say that Iran has won this war up to this point. The Strait of Hormuz is under the control of Iran. Oil prices are going high and will set new records if this conflict continues for a few more weeks. In my book, that counts as fighting back.

If your enemy hasn't been able to defeat you yet, employing all their available power to do so, then you have fought back successfully.
 
ShapurII said:
The US publicly declared three main objectives for this war:
1. First and foremost, regime change. Trump explicitly said this on multiple occasions in his interviews.
2. Destruction of Iran's BM and drone capabilities.
3. Accessing the 440 kilograms of 60% HEU in Iran.

They have failed to achieve all of these strategic objectives so far.
So, it is not far from reality to say that Iran has won this war up to this point. The Strait of Hormuz is under the control of Iran. Oil prices are going high and will set new records if this conflict continues for a few more weeks. In my book, that counts as fighting back.

If your enemy hasn't been able to defeat you yet, employing all their available power to do so, then you have fought back successfully.
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Your assessment is spot on.

No need to entertain the nonsense of @albritani who had long been outed as a false flagging pajeeetistani.
 
So I get lost but when is trumps supposed 48 deadline if he does doesn’t go through with it Iran sends one huge directed wave of sebm and drones at uae power and energy sectors and Hezbollah and Iran sends several waves at Israel’s largest plant an hour before the deadline
 
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⭕️ Hezbollah operations over the last two hours:

• We targeted three Israeli army positions in Marwahin, Khallat al-Bustan in Maroun al-Ras, and the Salas heights west of Yaroun, South Lebanon, with artillery shells and two rocket salvos.

• We successfully targeted an Israeli position with drones after spotting soldiers moving toward Khallat al-Bustan, southeast of Maroun al-Ras, South Lebanon.

• We targeted Israeli army soldiers east of Khiam, South Lebanon, with drones.

• We targeted Israeli artillery positions in Al-Zaoura with drones.
 
Eşbah said:
@Desert

Our Egyptian friends just can't catch a break. I wonder whether Sissi and the Egyptian leadership are actually preparing for 'zero hour'.
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poor Egypt , whom we gonna fight ? israael or ethiopia (dam problem) or rapid forces militia in sudan on our borders or the militia in libya or nato in mediterranean ?

we gonna get bullied so bad
 
You can determine the failure of middle east wars by the blaming of the Jews.

Persian Gulf War - not much blaming of Jews - success

This Iran war - blaming Jews - not going well for the Americans.

If the Persian Gulf war was a total failure and Saddam won, bush could blame Israel and Jews for wanting the war.

The Jews made the US do it.

Obama, Biden rejected control by Israel for war against iran. Both were supportive of jcpoa.

When you get Republicans, you get so called control by Israel.

Strange Democrats can say no to war with Iran, and Republicans cannot. Very strange.

It is as though the psychopathic US neocon Republicans, including trump, wanted this war.
 
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