Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

if these 15 points presented by US delegation is true then there is no point in negotiations, its just waste of time, they are probably re-arming and waiting until stock markets close on friday then they will start bombing again.

and then on next monday morning trump will come up with another chooran to try and mitigate the impacts of the war on stock market until next friday, rinse and repeat.

its quite strange seeing a nation's military being used on the whims of stock market, the moral among the usa troops must be hitting rock bottom at this point, soldiers are putting their lives in danger just for the elites to get even more richer.

The mystery has been solved:

 

[030292]

Trump said he received a gift from Iran yesterday.. was that a pilot ? or wreckage plus pilot ? from the earlier hit on f35

he said its oil and gas related, probably iran is pitching the idea to give him a cut of the $2 million toll charges iran is reportedly looking to charge every ship passing through hormuz

 

[Oracle]

For the life of me, I'll never understand why Iranians immediately end every video as soon as the target planes get hit.

Same with F35, same with others, same with this one. even the ones that were proven to be hit .. wtf is the logic in this ?

Is the person editing these videos some philosopher of minimalism ?

Jets will not fly that low in war zone.
Either jet will flay under 200m or above 55000ft.


All these are AI videos.
No wreckage, no pilot capture etc...

 

[Kyussis]

Flying soo low, not even manpads available?

Looks like it was hit by a Manpad to me.

 

[Immortals]

At this point iranian radars won't illuminate without getting hit so I'm guessing any air defence will operate under the passive mode of IRST and EO seeker for detection tracking and firing on the jets. This war really proves that SHORAD still works and I think it works much better(in an ambush scenario) than long range big radar radiating and attracting all the munitions and jamming from the enemies

I think future of warfare is IR/EO based systems and munitions and portable laser based systems. Not these bulky systems like THAAD or S-500 that need to be protected and can be taken out by 50,000 drone. Look at how many high grade air defense Russian is losing in this war.

It’s hard for any system to stand up against an onslaught of drone swarms and cheap munitions. There is the ammo problem and then their in the cost problem and then their is time to development problem. These systems were built with Cold War conflicts in mind and not $5000 FPV drones.

I think quantum radar is another major field that can impact stealth that’s been in development by the U.S. since 1991. Basic premise is entangling particles in an airspace vector that when distributed by a transiting object (ie fighter jet) would alert the respective counter-particles in the radar system. This would negate stealth as you aren’t relying on bouncing radar waves off the object. And quantum mechanics probalistic wave function says that a particle is both a particle and a wave until it is measured or forced to collapse the wave function into coherent value/point in space/time. I believe that’s what I read way back when I was bored.

 

[lightoftruth]

The attack is coming for sure on Friday night.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It can definitely be promising except The problem in the entire equation is the saudi rulers, the progeny of lawrence of arabia.
Trump has the ability to extrac all kind of deals and money from this family, remember they campaigned on BBC what happened to Jamal Kashogi and the prince who directly ordered it.
Saudi rulers are the most compromised.
They get black mailed and they blackmail the entire islamic world

The paths to the alternative are choked. They have chosen them over the state... so they are by default. However, to end the deadlock and to get a working body going. The blubber has to be removed and only key players have to be organized to start moving things.
There is no other option.

 

[Immortals]

Israel: The gift that Trump bragged about was Iran letting a few energy tankers cross the Strait

 

[brazensword]

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Orcs orcing. All seeing eye in Mordor is at its last stand.

 

[Aggregate]

could be, there was a similar video before that, of F-18 as well, which later turned out to be AI.

Yeah this video, that the guy shows in his example, can very well be AI though, the quality, the surroundings, the movements, etc are too good.

But I am sure that the original video that we are discussing is not AI. AI mangles up videos & pics if its forced to make low quality stuff, its by design.

It could have been faked in other ways (in case if it is really fake). Or its real.

 

[Flotilla]

Makes sense

Do you mean that in reality Trump´s made teatre for a fake deal and because Islamic Republic will never accept it to justify his invasion?.

Makes sense, I didn´t think Trump could be so nasty.

 

[Mero]

The negotiations are psyops to fool the markets that there is gonna be a ceasefire in the next hours. It is to stall Iran and make sure the insider trading and market manipulations yield millions or billions in profits for trump cronies. trump does not want 120 dollar oil, especially when losing.

The US is not sure their ground invasion is going to work, that is why the fake news was "Saudis pushing trump to stay in the war". Looking for a scapegoat if it fails

 

[ShapurII]

only KSA and Pakistan are militarily strong enough in the region to try and pull off such a move.

It's most likely the UAE. They have made claims on 3 of our islands.
Time to flatten Dubai and Abu Dhabi, I guess.

 

[Immortals]