Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Musings said:
The Americans are getting 15,000 tops ground troops. Theyve begged their allies to assist - so far all have said pxss off - imagine 15,000 against 1 million - doesnt matter about about air superiority - they really will get keema made out of them.
Trumps ego and failure - worth sacrificing so much?
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I have little experience but as per my fallows and my assessment boots on ground would be great disaster for US but I am praying this would not happen since these angelical + Jews will nuke Iran.
 
Musings said:
The Americans are getting 15,000 tops ground troops. Theyve begged their allies to assist - so far all have said pxss off - imagine 15,000 against 1 million - doesnt matter about about air superiority - they really will get keema made out of them.
Trumps ego and failure - worth sacrificing so much?
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The US has lost the war, It is just the question of when they want to admit it. Humiliation now, or spend trillions of dollars and thousands of life’s before they accept the inevitable
 
BHAN85 said:
Could USA bankers elite buy same products and services everyday with Hormuz closed? Yes they will, so they dont give a fck.

It's like tariffs. Tariffs is a economic mayhem for a lot of American and foreign companies. Does it affect to USA bankers elite life standards? They could have less financial earnings, like in Iran war, but they could enjoy same products and services until the day they die, so they really dont care.

What could affect to the life standards of USA elite? Lack of raw materials and energy. Fracking will have problems in the 2030s. And a lot of raw materials are peaking in last and coming years. And of course, the threat of China ascending military power.

What is the way to avoid those problems? Easy, impoverish everybody else. Instigate wars, destruction of rich countries like GCC in Iran war, and Europe in Ukraine war. So raw materials and energy future supply wont be a problem, because whole Eurasia will be impoverished due to wars in rich zones, and energy/raw materials consumption will decrease.

The plan is not so hard, just destroy things when resources supply is in danger.

The hard is the narrative of American nonsenses and lies to conceal the simple real reason.

It's a good strategy to be rational, pretending be irrational with the shabbo goy orange monkey, and to provoke a irrational behavior in your enemies (due to religious, ethnics, nationalistic emotions), and that is exactly what USA elite is doing.

Forget every byte of information that it comes from USA, it's all lies. And just observe what USA really does.
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Your resource based power theory is plausible but it does not explain the privileged situation of israel which channels tremendous amount of resources every year from usa economy through ngos,corporations etc. to thrive for no reason benefitting the american elite.

Hurmuz strategy is logical in the sense that since world economy is interconnected other countries effected from it would push usa more. Otherwise it would be like Gaza everyone looking the other way with some pretty condemnations and no tangible pressure as many times before. usa would spend on their stored oil reserves and lose resources as well replacing the bottleneck at middle east. So the demand of other countries which is not supplied by the middle east currently lays the burden of energy supply to the usa which hurts the elites more spending on their own reserves. It reduces the demand of mideast but raises the demand from other countries from the usa.

Also hitting usa economy even at the lower levels would raise awareness at local american population and would make them understand that they are seen as second class citizens compared to this "chosen" elite. Revolts and protests against the elite would further shape the future of usa that is better for the general american population. It is better than targeting the usa mainland militarily. Targeting isreal and regional usa assets militarily and usa mainland economically would make americans realise the situation faster that they are being used and eventually revolt against this elite. Some protests like the no king movement already started in Usa mainland. Otherwise it will be status quo.
 
Master Chief said:
The optics problem for USA-Israel is that emotive semantics ring hollow when Iranian lives and livelihoods have been "held hostage" by deliberate targeting of universities, hospitals, and civilian areas during this war and prior to the war, a sanctions programme that -by the live and recorded admission of American officials themselves - was fully intended to cripple the Iranian currency.
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That's fair. Yet, the GCC apparently didn't care as it wasn't affecting them directly.
 


Top analysts break down Iran’s war strategy and why it’s proving so difficult for the United States to counter.

Experts, including Ross Harrison and Harlan Ullman, explain how Iran is using a long-developed “diffusion strategy” — spreading influence across the region through allies in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen — to apply pressure without direct confrontation.

As the war escalates, the U.S. faces rising costs, expanding battlefronts, and growing political pressure at home. With the involvement of groups like the Hezbollah and the Houthis, the conflict is rapidly becoming more complex.

Meanwhile, global tensions rise as oil prices surge and key routes like the Strait of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb face potential disruption.

Is Iran “winning by not losing”?
 
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