Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tamerlane]

A majority of US Jews may not approve of the attack on Iran, however, an overwhelming majority of the powerful proponents of war against Iran in the US are Jews.

It’s the US Jews who control the US, not the Israeli Jews.

 

[ShapurII]

We are not firing nearly enough drones.
We need to fire at least 200-300 drones.

If Russia can fire 700 drones at Ukraine, why can't Iran? We have plenty of targets to hit around us in the Persian Gulf region.

 

[tsunset]

 

[Aggregate]

Translated: Targeting of an American cargo ship off the coast of Dammam, Saudi Arabia

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Dammam is nowhere near the opening of Hormoz. This one must have been for some reason other than the ship attempting to leave.

 

[mangekyo]

We are not firing nearly enough drones.
We need to fire at least 200-300 drones.

If Russia can fire 700 drones at Ukraine, why can't Iran? We have plenty of targets to hit around us in the Persian Gulf region.

This war has a high chance of lasting 3 years until Trump is out of office. Possibly longer. If we hit all targets now, we are forced to de escalate and lose leverage.

 

[Immortals]

 

[LeonBlack08]

Yes I also feels so. This whole thing is a deception of some sort. You really think they are stupid to send few thousand marines in a meat grinder? I mean few thousand marines cannot invade or hold any piece of Irani land.

They have been stupid enough to start this war for Israel, so nothing is really ever off the table with Trump and his loonies.

 

[Aggregate]

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to be fair, Kursk was their own region and even in that case the Russians were like 'Who dis?' for half a year while Ukrainians conquered it around

They are an equal opportunity drunkards to everyone including themselves

 

[Immortals]

 

[东风夜放花千树]

if Taiwan got hands on any nuclear material it is likely china will invade imminently

My friend, your understanding may be incorrect.

Any country that provides nuclear weapons to Taiwan is regarded as declaring war on China.

All countries are aware of this principle. Let's analyze the wars after the founding of New China.

The Korean War: the United States and its allies threatened China's north. The Self-Defense Counterattack against India: India attempted to seize Chinese territory, threatening China's west. The Self-Defense Counterattack against Vietnam: Vietnam killed people in China's border areas, threatening China's south. The Zhenbao Island Self-Defense Counterattack: the Soviet Union attempted to control Chinese territory, seriously threatening China's north.

If any country provides nuclear weapons to Taiwan Province, that is a serious threat to China's east. Moreover, such behavior seriously violates international law and diplomatic agreements, and we will regard it as an act of aggression.

The United States believes that Iran threatens the security of the United States, and the United States and Israel have invaded Iran.

Russia believes that Ukraine joining NATO threatens Russia's security, and Russia attacked Ukraine.

We have not invaded any country. We desire peace; we only want to farm and trade. If any country tries to split China or threatens the security of the Taiwan Strait, can you guess what we would do?

 

[LeonBlack08]

I had great hope and genuine desire for peace talks to break out. I dont think its a possibility. Trump and Vance are narcissists and are adamant in bullying the negotiations - and Iran not prepared to bow. Dont see a deal especially with those bastards in Tel Aviv.

Israelis will never allow a deal. If somehow Trump tries to take an off ramp by compromis ing, they will sabotage it by escalating. They have been doing it over and over again and will continue to do so.

 

[Aggregate]

Yes I also feels so. This whole thing is a deception of some sort. You really think they are stupid to send few thousand marines in a meat grinder? I mean few thousand marines cannot invade or hold any piece of Irani land.

Or .... we might be giving them too much credit towards being intelligent.

They got an E3 destroyed, many planes downed, 24 years worth of missiles and interceptors burned off, lost military bases built over 6 decades and got everyone fu**ed globally, including themselves with Hormuz closure. Even their own intelligence is now shaking their heads, telling them 'told you so' !!

They might actually be, 'really' stupid and might as well send a few thousand marines to take over some island right next to Iranian mainland, after all they have done in the last month.

 

[Viet]

They are not facing threat but they are definitely facing humiliation at the hands of IRGC. They can go to any lengths to show they are winning.

There is a threshold where nuclear weapon is used. Iran doesn’t meet it. Iran is a non nuclear state. Iran despite all hostile rhetoric is not an existential threat to Israel’s survival.

 

[ShapurII]

This war has a high chance of lasting 3 years until Trump is out of office. Possibly longer. If we hit all targets now, we are forced to de escalate and lose leverage.

Even if so, so what? Russia-Ukraine war has already entered its 5th year and Russia is still firing +500 drones at Ukraine per day.

Also, trust me, this war cannot last more than 6 months. For a couple of reasons:
1. Iran's ability to fire missiles at Israel will significantly decrease after 6 months.
2. After the US, Japan and South Korea have the world's largest strategic reserves of crude oil and they can last up to 200 days only.
3. After 3 months, many smaller countries will already start to go through economic collapse if Iran doesn't open the Strait of Hormuz. If Iran opens the Strait of Hormuz, we're finished. If we don't, half of the world is finished.
4. If Iran threatens half of the world, sooner than later, the UNSC will create a coalition of countries to invade Iran. We know for a fact that Russia and China will not veto such a resolution, as they have proven it just recently.
5. Even if that doesn't work, the US and Israel do not have infinite patience and will use nukes against Iran.
6. Iran's economy cannot last a 3-year war. As I said, nobody is going to give us $300 billion to fight back, unlike Ukraine.

So, Iran has to win this war before we reach that point. We have survived for 30 days, and we can survive for another 30-60 days. But 3 years? Nope.

EDIT: Trust me, even if you fire 100K drones at them, you cannot hit and destroy all of your targets. Its a f*cking drone with a 40kg warhead after all, not a K-4 missile.

 

[SABRE]

IRGC stated It is "Israel" that attacked the water desalination centers in Kuwait.

Does anyone know how we can make Telegram work in Pakistan?