Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

Amen

 

[FUB]

 

[FUB]

 

[albritani]

I don't think 1500 missiles is good enough for deterrence against Israel. You would need to fire like 2000 missiles plus the drones to depleted all of Israel's interceptors. When their interceptors is out, then you need fire another 1000 missiles at them; assuming 800 will impact that will cause a considerable damage to their military and civilian infrastructures.

If the day arrives where there is zero interceptors, and they were under a serious threat of destruction then Iran will surely suffer the fate of Tehran being nuked. Missile stocks will dwindle on both sides, with every additional US/Israeli attack they are most likely taking out far more than can be reproduced in the short term.

Even if Tel Aviv had 500 missiles hit it, most of the city will still remain, and given the amount of missiles Iran has fired this week that seems unlikely. Which just shows how pointless and most likely a stalemate will occur and all that death and suffering just to be back in the same position they started in, just both weakened and new enemies made.

We are getting to the point now that lots of poorer countries are starting to suffer, fuel rationing, planned blackouts etc which is only the start of a bad situation. Us people in wealthier countries will be fine, I might have to pay an extra £50 to fill up every 3 weeks and food etc might jump up a few percent but any middle income nation can handle that, so as usual it's the poorest that suffer.

 

[ShapurII]

They have been flying missions out of there and that too actively, especially from Italy.

US does launch and recover aircraft from Japan and South Korea, they stay a few hours in the region, recover and then fly back up a few days later.

Again, as I said, it's not direction aggression. If the US launches IRBMs against Iranian territories from Japan and South Korea, then it will be comparable to what countries like Kuwait, Bahrain and the Emirates have done. That's a clear act of aggression and involvement in the war.

Besides that, Japan and South Korea didn't push the US to launch this war. Some Arab states in the Persian Gulf did push for this war and continue to do so and finance it. Trump has publicly talked about this, their officials have talked about this, Western journalists have talked about this, Iranian officials have talked about this and it is beyond reasonable doubt at this point.

 

[FUB]

They have no shame. A race that sees itself as no more than slaves of the white men.

 

[FUB]

 

[hasssanali8998]

They have no shame. A race that sees itself as no more than slaves of the white men.

nothing new lmao
idk why you u are suprised

 

[Immortals]

1st Iranian ballistic missile wave to Israel in 18 hours — out of Isfahan, same base that was targeted by B-2 bombers last night

 

[ShapurII]

Iranians were fire worshippers before Islam and these people were Pagans even today Zoroastrians called Misl e Ahle Qitab since they were monotheists believe in One God But these mullahs before worshipping laat, Minaat etc.


@RescueRanger

Sir your opinion?

Zoroastrianism is a monotheistic religion. It is one of the oldest monotheistic religions in the world and it has nothing to do with worshipping fire.

It is about worshipping fire as much as Islam is about worshipping the black stone (الحجر الاسود).

 

[Maarkhoor]

Zoroastrianism is a monotheistic religion. It is one of the oldest monotheistic religions in the world and it has nothing to do with worshipping fire.

It is about worshipping fire as much as Islam is about worshipping the black stone (الحجر الاسود).

Thats what I said. Read my post again that is why we call them misl e ahele Qitab.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It’s not a supply issue. I can assure you. At the absolute minimum Iran has at least another 1000-1500 long range missiles.

The issue is political will in Tehran as factions fight for strategy and end game.

Also there is 200+ aircraft/drones flying thru the skies of Iran so they have to pick their launch windows carefully.

As long as they got Hormuz. Everything can rebuild. As long as there is political and foreign policy freedom Iran can return. In fact, rebuild faster... there'd be those leaving mideast... Emirates for example who have years of project management experience... most importantly construction... that can be employed in host countries or wasted in their home environments but talent readily available to put to good use.

Everything can rebuild, mental slavery is often permanent.

 

[ShapurII]

Thats what I said. Read my post again that is why we call them misl e ahele Qitab.

I'm referring to the first line of your comment where you say Iranians were fire worshippers.

Zoroastrians did not worship fire. They kept fire as a symbol of God, as a symbol of light against darkness. That is not a fire-worshipping practice. It is like claiming that Muslims worship the black stone because they walk around it in Mecca.

Even Islam claims that God is a form of light in some sense. It is right from the Quran:
الله نور السماوات و الارض

 

[Falcon29]

I don't think 1500 missiles is good enough for deterrence against Israel. You would need to fire like 2000 missiles plus the drones to depleted all of Israel's interceptors. When their interceptors is out, then you need fire another 1000 missiles at them; assuming 800 will impact that will cause a considerable damage to their military and civilian infrastructures.

Yes that's right. Iran is at a disadvantage against Israel in this war. It was in a better position during the 12 day war.

 

[Raider 21]

Again, as I said, it's not direction aggression. If the US launches IRBMs against Iranian territories from Japan and South Korea, then it will be comparable to what countries like Kuwait, Bahrain and the Emirates have done. That's a clear act of aggression and involvement in the war.

Besides that, Japan and South Korea didn't push the US to launch this war. Some Arab states in the Persian Gulf did push for this war and continue to do so and finance it. Trump has publicly talked about this, their officials have talked about this, Western journalists have talked about this, Iranian officials have talked about this and it is beyond reasonable doubt at this point.

I don't know about the rest (Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar and the rest of the Arab Islamic world
), but US military presence in Bahrain is non existent since late January. No IRBMs have been launched from there.

Yes, Saudi leadership have been rumoured to press on for attacks on Iran.