Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

EugeneP said:
Though one should not be foolhardy enough to trust his words, Trump seems to be clearly signaling his next battle plan is on infrastructure. From air. How does that suggest ground war? Even a cursory look at Iran suggests you need a couple of hundred ground troops for any kind of ground action. That is simply not there. Also, where are the weapons, armor, ammunition, supply lines etc. for a ground war? That needs 30 to 60 days to assemble at its fastest. And where will it be assembled in the middle of a war?
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Nothing can be trusted from this trump regime. Their latest attacks on pharmaceutical companies to cause the shortage of medications to treat the wounded, and power plants is a clear indication that they are moving toward siege tactic. Their next phase will be destroying all the bridges to cause a disruption in the transportation of daily necessities; imagine if you can't transport food, water, medicine, ammunitions, personnels from one city, town to another. Bridge destruction is a tactic to isolate any place under siege of receiving supplies and "reinforcement". Don't be surprised if they will start hitting all the highways, tunnel highways, and roads next. Next phase of the attack will be the farms, farm land, cattle ranch, food processing plants, supermarkets, main stream water source, water infrastructures. This trump gang won't put ground troops to invade Iran's inland until they can starve the population and isolate Iranian cities and towns from each other. I hope what I'm saying will be wrong, but the situation is looking more and more like a total war.
 
EugeneP said:
But he is Successful. President for over a dozen years, and may be a dozen more, God willing. His best quote: "Democracy is like a tram; you ride it until you arrive at your destination, then you step off".
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Democracy is overrated anyways, it’s an illusion of choice.
 
Immortals said:
Looks like Iran tricked UAE air defenses with a missile that releases flares or aluminum leaflets that causes Patriot to continue wasting interceptors on phantom interceptors.

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This is the 2nd time this has happened
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Why the same strategy not implemented on Israel?
 
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2nd F-35 reported to be hit. Wreckage claimed to be shot down by Iran. Pilot claimed to likely not survived

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Could also be a F-15. Reported to be from Lakenheath squadron.
 
mq-9?

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Immortals said:
2nd F-35 reported to be hit. Wreckage claimed to be shot down by Iran. Pilot claimed to likely not survived

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Could also be a F-15. Reported to be from Lakenheath squadron.
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I used AI to analyze the wreckage , it gave me some details that it's mq-9 , not sure though.


Technical Analysis: Why this is not an F-35
The images clearly show wreckage, but specific structural and technical evidence confirms it belongs to an MQ-9 Reaper drone rather than an F-35 fighter jet.
1. Tail Structure (Vertical Stabilizer)
  • F-35: The F-35 has two massive, thick, and canted (angled) vertical tails designed with Radar Absorbent Material (RAM) for stealth.
  • In the Image: The debris shows a thin, elongated fin, which is a signature design of the MQ-9 Reaper's glider-like tail.
2. The Colored Tail Flash (The Stripes)
  • The yellow or red stripes seen in the debris are characteristic of U.S. drone squadrons operating under the European and African commands (e.g., the 489th Attack Squadron). F-35s typically use smaller, low-visibility markings that blend into their dark grey coating.
 
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Desert said:
I used AI to analyze the wreckage , it gave me some details that it's mq-9 , not sure though.


Technical Analysis: Why this is not an F-35
The images clearly show wreckage, but specific structural and technical evidence confirms it belongs to an MQ-9 Reaper drone rather than an F-35 fighter jet.
1. Tail Structure (Vertical Stabilizer)
  • F-35: The F-35 has two massive, thick, and canted (angled) vertical tails designed with Radar Absorbent Material (RAM) for stealth.
  • In the Image: The debris shows a thin, elongated fin, which is a signature design of the MQ-9 Reaper's glider-like tail.
2. The Colored Tail Flash (The Stripes)
  • The yellow or red stripes seen in the debris are characteristic of U.S. drone squadrons operating under the European and African commands (e.g., the 489th Attack Squadron). F-35s typically use smaller, low-visibility markings that blend into their dark grey coating.
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AI models are no where near the level of being able to tell you from a tiny piece of wreckage what the object is.

people really need to stop relying on AI models as the judge and jury for things. Models have a long way to go.
 
Desert said:
I used AI to analyze the wreckage , it gave me some details that it's mq-9 , not sure though.


Technical Analysis: Why this is not an F-35
The images clearly show wreckage, but specific structural and technical evidence confirms it belongs to an MQ-9 Reaper drone rather than an F-35 fighter jet.
1. Tail Structure (Vertical Stabilizer)
  • F-35: The F-35 has two massive, thick, and canted (angled) vertical tails designed with Radar Absorbent Material (RAM) for stealth.
  • In the Image: The debris shows a thin, elongated fin, which is a signature design of the MQ-9 Reaper's glider-like tail.
2. The Colored Tail Flash (The Stripes)
  • The yellow or red stripes seen in the debris are characteristic of U.S. drone squadrons operating under the European and African commands (e.g., the 489th Attack Squadron). F-35s typically use smaller, low-visibility markings that blend into their dark grey coating.
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more wreckage

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Possible F-15 that was shot ended up falling in the Persian gulf hence why we saw search and rescue planes

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@AZ_HighCountry thoughts?
 
- Trump claims that $2 billion a day is needed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
- China responds by stating that the Strait was never closed and attributes the chaos to U.S. military aggression against Iran and accused the U.S. of fabricating a crisis‼️

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