Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ChineseTiger1986]

That makes sense because Chinese control the rare earth market and US has heavily depleted its stocks in Iran in just one month. They need certain elements used in seekers, electronics, composites that only Chinese vendors offer ... If war drags on, Russia and China will have full control over US replenishment of its wasted stocks.

Even the maintenance of their top priority nuclear arsenal like the Trident II and W88/W76 relies on lots of rare earth.

And it is all endangered by the shortage of rare earth.

It is good for Iran that they get less lethal weapons to threaten it.

However, Iran still needs to keep an eye on the B-2 as the madman might order to the B-2 to drop the bombs again if he is getting tired of losing, and it could be the nuclear bombs this time.

 

[Yasser76]

A weekly drone attack run in perpetuity on Dubai zionist hellhole will be helpful for the regional peace and development

If there is a seize fire tomorrow UAE is f**ked beyond belief. US will withdraw from the region claiming job done. Iran will be left standing and UAE prestige and defence capability left reduced. It's ability to attract capital (even dodgy capital) and tourism will be screwed and no US sugar daddy around.

It may well do a deal with Israel but simple geography shows that can hardly protect it, maybe some Arrows or Iron Dome but that is all.

Saudi and Qatar will not be rushing to UAE's defence as Riyadh and Doha wants Dubais crown and of course both have long wanted to take MBZ down a peg or two for a long time

Hormuz will be Iranian controlled and Iran will extract it's pound of flesh for sure.

UAE most likley biggest loser in all this and they know it

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I don't think zion is doing that in vacuum... the JD group or the corporate takeover guys also want the empire to wither and be replaced by corporate monopolies running America. The two find confluence in manchild at the helm amenable to both.

They are too small to become physically the superpower themselves.

Maybe they wanna take the host on India?

 

[Yasser76]

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3 big news form Iran, in a row:

1. Hit on a large steel manufacturing facility in Gulf, with large US investments, that caused twice the value in damages as compared to Mubarikah steel in Isfahan
2. Announcement just now, of a US Jet shot down with Advanced Weapons Systems (above video published)
3. Oracle Data Centre attacked in UAE

Iran really opening up into economic & aerial war domains, compared to just the missile attack retaliations of the past.

After the massive job losses at Oracle and the need to cut costs they may find this a net positive....

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

If there is a seize fire tomorrow UAE is f**ked beyond belief. US will withdraw from the region claiming job done. Iran will be left standing and UAE prestige and defence capability left reduced. It's ability to attract capital (even dodgy capital) and tourism will be screwed and no US sugar daddy around.

It may well do a deal with Israel but simple geography shows that can hardly protect it, maybe some Arrows or Iron Dome but that is all.

Saudi and Qatar will not be rushing to UAE's defence as Riyadh and Doha wants Dubais crown and of course both have long wanted to take MBZ down a peg or two for a long time

Hormuz will be Iranian controlled and Iran will extract it's pound of flesh for sure.

UAE most likley biggest loser in all this and they know it

You cannot be truly rich without being a powerhouse in technology and military.

 

[ShapurII]

Ground war is coming. I said it weeks ago.

You guys really need to mentally prepare yourselves

It’s either complete capitulation or ground game. The former is incomprehensible for this administration, thus only the later remains.

They are moving first to seige tactics. Take away food, water, medicine, power, then invade.

I'm afraid you are right. They are trying siege tactics as you said, and they are demoralizing Iranian civilians. Terrorism at its finest.

What do you think Iran should do though? What is the proper response to this?

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These reformists are desperate to kill Iran. They have mental illness. Hasn’t Zarif done enough damage to Iran?

@Persian Gulf
@ShapurII
@Shags101

He was never held accountable for lying to our faces about the JCPOA.
But it's a system issue again. We should never forget that the JCPOA was passed in under 20 minutes in a parliament where the majority of seats were held by the conservatives. They didn't even read the document and discuss it in the parliament before voting on it and passing it. They even tried to frame that as an achievement!

Our system of governance is a failed one. At least prior to this war, we had a group of sheep that followed whatever the Supreme Leader ordered in unison. No wonder that the Americans assumed Iran would fall 3 days after the Supreme Leader was murdered. It was a miscalculation that our history of decision making made them make.

 

[ToddE]

Even the maintenance of their top priority nuclear arsenal like the Trident II and W88/W76 relies on lots of rare earth.

And it is all endangered by the shortage of rare earth.

It is good for Iran that they get less lethal weapons to threaten it.

However, Iran still needs to keep an eye on the B-2 as the madman might order to the B-2 to drop the bombs again if he is getting tired of losing, and it could be the nuclear bombs this time.

US-Israel have lost the war completely because of their own stupidity unless US drops nukes over Iranian cities which ain't happening. They have not changed the regime, they have not deterred IRGCASF that just yesterday was blasting US radars on traitor arabi soil and Israeli factory, thats in 2nd month of the war, HEU is still in Iran, the 5K centrifuges cascades are still in Iran, Iran is selling 5MBPD oil, strait is still closed, so what actually has been achieved? Even if they take the islands, the war will drag on and they will have body bags that no US admin will want. These are small islands with no cover, it will be like shooting ducks in a barrel with drones and SRBMs/TBMs/GMLRS which is why they have not tried it yet even after 20 days of threatening by Trump. They cant land in Isfahan to drag out HEU considering its still there ?? lol they will have to land, create airstrip, excavate hundreds of feets below, drg out tons of metal ? so whats the way out ? No regime change, no IRGC reciprocating strike suppression/deterioration, Strait is still closed, USDPB rising, US has lost almost its entire land based EW /Search Track network on traitor arab soil, the aviation losses are balanced on both sides, Iran has taken hits but on civilian infrastructure that means nothing in terms of war goals. I predicted war decay on both sides thats exactly we are at right now.

 

[lightning f57]

Israeli army saying they struck an anti-tank missile cell made of 15 Hezbollah anti tank operatives.

That sounds strange. Usually it's only two people if not one alone operating such a system.

Me thinks IDF is making stuff up

They likely bombed a home and killed an entire family. Everything is a terrorist to these nazis.

 

[ToddE]

That's a dumb conspiracy theory. Iran has proven it has capabilities to shoot down especially at medium to short range

That palestini is here to discredit Iranian technology and victories because of some weird bottom iq obsession some people develop with/against Iran. That's his only agenda to cope, I wonder why Mods allow the illogical spamming.

 

[Falcon29]

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[ShapurII]

Israel dismantles a domestic espionage network operating to identify locations of air defenses and battery sites

The network does not operate on behalf of Iran but operates "for another foreign entity" that Israel did not name

Who do you think it is?

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It could be Russia. Too many Slavs in the Israeli system.

 

[ToddE]

F-15s dropping down so fast against EO/IIR missiles tells us something about what would happen to SU-35S in actual war. IRIAF should have invested in low RCS Su-57 but they wasted money on Bomb n Missile Truck Flanker from 90s.

 

[Falcon29]

@Musings

I think extremely biased media from Persian Gulf Arab countries favoring Israel like Al-Arabiya, Al-Jazeera, Iran-international etc should be banned in this thread. They are a full adversary in this war against Iran providing heavy logistics and physical support to US-Israel, why should their propaganda be allowed in an Iranian thread ? Its like during India-Pakistan wars someone start spamming the forum with Indian sources claiming 50 Pakistani jets shot down and etc.

You are crazy. Al Jazeera Arabic has been the most reliable source for all news related to the conflict.

They're literally almost 100% official sources and verified information on ground.

And they will share everything said by officials from all parties and sources from all parties. Which is good to have. The world and us middle Easterners need to see and read what Israeli officials are saying and up to.

 

[Falcon29]

Sirens sound in Ramat David airbase based in Haifa due to incoming Iranian missile fire

 

[lightning f57]

Yes, also shows you the different approaches between USAF/USN and Israeli airforce. Israelis usually or mostly stay out of enemy airspace and use long ranged SOWs, ALBMs with range. Their entire 12 day war was fought from over Iraqi airspace with 1-2 incidents entering or attempting to enter the airspace of Iran when F-15i was caught jettisoning and flaring after being shot at by Khordad battery. There was no other incident.

Meanwhile, USAF because they lack dedicated SOWs/ALBMs on fighter jets relies upon heavy bombing from above enemy, they do SEAD clearance of enemy airdefence because of this.

After the war it makes sense for Iran to engage China for an air superiority fighter jet. The foundation should be laid to procure, train and ready the IrAF. Russian's are much more unreliable and can't compete vs China on quality now and quantity.