Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Master Chief]

You are crazy. Al Jazeera Arabic has been the most reliable source for all news related to the conflict.

They're literally almost 100% official sources and verified information on ground.

And they will share everything said by officials from all parties and sources from all parties. Which is good to have. The world and us middle Easterners need to see and read what Israeli officials are saying and up to.

Come on mate. AJ is a joke. Sometimes they put the correct objective facts up on the board or they invite a balanced analyst for discussion, fair enough - even I will quote them in such cases. But mostly, they choose their own narrative, patronise the viewer by drilling that narrative into their brains, and remind us that Qatar is an unstoppable Switzerland of the east once per bulletin.

The problem in the west is, there is NO English language media that focuses on middle eastern news except for AJ. Press TV got banned but that was ridiculously biased too. I haven't properly tried TRT yet, to be fair.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Yasser76]

As far as the Iran/Israel-US war is concerned AJN has voiced the talking points from Iran. Personally I am not a fan of the Qataris but there are very few news agencies you can say are middle ground but still somewhat reliable.

Often they have criticised Qatar policies and very very few Arab news outlets are allowed to do that in their countries

 

[ShapurII]

Why is Iran attacking Kuwaiti infrastructure for ? Kuwaiti policy was similar to Qatari and Omani policy towards Iran

Not at all. The US has been caught firing HIMARS on Iran from the Kuwaiti territory multiple times.

 

[lightning f57]

Seems like an F-15E

USAF losses now matching or exceeding those of 1991 Gulf War and 2003 Gulf War.

I think they expected some losses but as mentioned, at this rate capability so eroding.

4 F-15Es
1 F-35 Damaged/write off
2 E-3s
2 C-130 Compass Call
8 (possibly more!?) KC-135s

Even for USAF this presents about 2-3s years worth of attrition. Same as PAF losing 6 planes in 1 month, and imagine of those 6 if 1 was Erieye, 1 was Falcon 20 , 1 was IL-76 and 3 were F-16s.

See my point?

1 more month and if Iran keeps this up, USAF losses will be 35-40 planes. Again, US can take this for sure, but almost all of the above are no longer being manufactured apart from F-35, so these will be a erosion of capability in short/medium term

Again, also add planes they will no need to retire early due to war use/fatigue.

By default this has put PLAAF and PLAAN Air Arm ahead by a year or so simply by standing there watching

This also shows importance of having fighter jets with long range BVR weapons. Both US and Israel are using stand off weapons which shows they dont completely control the skys, a fighter jet with those long claws would give them more losses and prevent allot of the civilian infrastructure destruction we have seen.

Iran strategised a war without an airforce or navy, knowing the economic and civilian cost which tells us they can continue fighting like this for a long while.

 

[RescueRanger]

Often they have criticised Qatar policies and very very few Arab news outlets are allowed to do that in their countries

My reason for distrusting them is more to do with matters at home.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You are crazy. Al Jazeera Arabic has been the most reliable source for all news related to the conflict.

They're literally almost 100% official sources and verified information on ground.

And they will share everything said by officials from all parties and sources from all parties. Which is good to have. The world and us middle Easterners need to see and read what Israeli officials are saying and up to.

From the perspective of the Chinese, Al Jazeera is the most pro-west middle eastern media outlet.

They are Arabs, but keep using the talking points of the westerners.

No wonder our Iranian friends feel the same.

 

[Falcon29]

Because many instances have come out of us firing missiles from Kuwait..

Do you have proof?

Why is gas facilities, power plants and water desalination plants being spared in Israel ? Is it lack of capability or unwillingness to do so?

It's Israel which attacked oil facilities and other critical infrastructure in Iran.

Putting pressure on GCC won't make the US stop. The US doesn't take orders from GCC but from Israel and the Jewish-American community.

 

[ToddE]

After the war it makes sense for Iran to engage China for an air superiority fighter jet. The foundation should be laid to procure, train and ready the IrAF. Russian's are much more unreliable and can't compete vs China on quality now and quantity.

Even if we get 200 J-10s + 200 SU-35s + 10 AWACS, they will be destroyed on ground along with air bases hosting them with in a week. Understand the enemy we are fighting an elongated war against.

Not to mention the same 40-50 Billion USD that will be wasted in creating this AF can give IRGCASF some 10 more underground bases hosting 2000 more BM/CM and drones.

 

[Optical216]

Do you have proof?

Why is gas facilities, power plants and water desalination plants being spared in Israel ? Is it lack of capability or unwillingness to do so?

It's Israel which attacked oil facilities and other critical infrastructure in Iran.

Putting pressure on GCC won't make the US stop. The US doesn't take orders from GCC but from Israel and the Jewish-American community.

They have literally hit oil Plants? And industrial areas?

These Arab gulf countries provide logistics to USA they are legitimate targets.

 

[albritani]

From the perspective of the Chinese, Al Jazeera is the most pro-west middle eastern media outlet.

They are Arabs, but keep using the talking points of the westerners.

No wonder our Iranian friends feel the same.

It's better then presstv who last week were posting on x fake story work ai video, they did remove it eventually but that's still completely moronic.

 

[Optical216]

Even if we get 200 J-10s + 200 SU-35s + 10 AWACS, they will be destroyed on ground along with air bases hosting them with in a week. Understand the enemy we are fighting an elongated war against.

Not to mention the same 40-50 Billion USD that will be wasted in creating this AF can give IRGCASF some 10 more underground bases hosting 2000 more BM/CM and drones.

The longer the war goes, the more Iran will adapt, the more the population will rally, the more entrenched Iran becomes.

 

[Takayoshi]

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Highly likely Iran got its first aircraft kill of the war

@Persian Gulf

@Shags101

I'm no military expert but how come the pilots did not even attempt to eject? and crashed to their death? Is it possible they were rescued?

Let's see what centcom has to say about this.

 

[ety]

After the war it makes sense for Iran to engage China for an air superiority fighter jet. The foundation should be laid to procure, train and ready the IrAF. Russian's are much more unreliable and can't compete vs China on quality now and quantity.

I think Iran will always prefer Russia over China as the foremost strategic partner esp in military sense simply because of geopolitics and cooperation history.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Even if we get 200 J-10s + 200 SU-35s + 10 AWACS, they will be destroyed on ground along with air bases hosting them with in a week. Understand the enemy we are fighting an elongated war against.

Not to mention the same 40-50 Billion USD that will be wasted in creating this AF can give IRGCASF some 10 more underground bases hosting 2000 more BM/CM and drones.

True, Iran needs to 100% focusing on asymmetric warfare against a superpower like the US.

However, if you win this war, you will most likely establish yourself as a nuclear power, and it will be unlikely for you to fight a superpower in the future.

So you will still not invest in your air force and navy after having economic recovery?