Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

BREAKING: President Trump "won’t say what US will do" if the missing pilot from the shot down F-15E in Iran today is harmed, per The Independent.

Today marks the first American aviator to be shot down over enemy territory since an A-10 pilot ejected into Iraq after being struck by a surface-to-air missile in April 2003.

 
This day will Mark the END of Hagseth.... One of these guys have to resign
1. Trump
2. Rubio
3. Hagseth
Trump ain't resigning in no way hell.
Rubio is a good Puppy.
So it's the Hagseth who have too and must go.... Let's see if he survive by Monday...
Firing him will definitely give a sign to the markets and therefore some faith in this event ending...
 


Russian systems arriving? Chinese systems arriving? Or hidden Iranian systems?

Will be interesting to see if more fighter jets are hit or not in coming days. Too early to say if it is the start of a trend or not.

In the case of China, the Iranian war presents a great opportunity to test various weapons against Western equipment in a war setting. It can be one massive R&D playground for China to test various ideas rather than large expensive bulky weapon systems that wouldn’t survive.
 


U.S. wasting their precious tomahawk munitions on random targets again. It is now believed at least 40-50% of tomahawk stockpile has been used in this war.

40-50% is likely too high. their stockpile was estimated at 3000-4000 before the war and they used 850 TLAMs as of 1-2 weeks ago.

so the depletion rate is likely 25-33%.

similar numbers for the JASSM. estimated 1000 / 3500 used (30% depletion)
 
Trump to The Independent: I'm not ready yet to announce what America will do if the missing fighter pilot is harmed

 
Those guys knows the area and can find him/her. They will find him unless nature claimed that fallen pilot.
USAF training is one of the best. Hopefully they have survived, Scott O Grady is an example where he survived for 5 days. My old man too survived and was lucky to evade the Soviets from reaching him. Nature maybe harsh to a fallen aviator.
 
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USAF training is one of the best. Hopefully they have survived, Scott O Grady is an example where he survived for 5 days. My old man too survived and was lucky to evade the Soviets from reaching him. Nature maybe harsh to a fallen aviator.

Could be on the Iranian military's side, they aren't all blinding brilliant competent. They were just underestimated
They are pretty damn competent for being under sanctions for 50 years
 
“The response shattered the assumption that Tehran would confine itself to performative retaliation. In internal deliberations before the war’s launch, Hegseth had pointed to Iran's muted reaction to Trump’s past attacks as evidence that calibrated force could impose costs on Tehran without triggering a broader war. Hegseth “was caught off guard. There’s no question,” says a person familiar with his thinking.

As preparations for the war began, the Administration believed it had a winning formula. The U.S. would deliver an opening strike so overwhelming Tehran’s only viable response would be limited retaliation—enough to satisfy domestic audiences without inviting more attacks. It was a theory rooted in precedent. When Trump ordered the killing of Iranian general Qasem Soleimani during his first term, Iran’s response was a missile strike on a U.S. base that caused no casualties and was telegraphed in advance. After Operation Midnight Hammer, the June 2025 air campaign against Iran’s nuclear facilities, the retaliation was similarly tempered
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For years Iran’s strategic patience and token attacks only emboldened the enemy like many on here warned. The countless assassinations in Syria culminating in the Solemani assassination weakened and directly caused this war on Iranian soil.

The proponents of this disastrous policy are no longer on this earth. Hopefully, their successors learn.

so we got saying here it’s starting to look like it’s on like donkey Kong
 
BREAKING: President Trump "won’t say what US will do" if the missing pilot from the shot down F-15E in Iran today is harmed, per The Independent.

Today marks the first American aviator to be shot down over enemy territory since an A-10 pilot ejected into Iraq after being struck by a surface-to-air missile in April 2003.


what can they threaten this time, to destroy our power plants and water desalination plants? oh wait...



Russian systems arriving? Chinese systems arriving? Or hidden Iranian systems?

Will be interesting to see if more fighter jets are hit or not in coming days. Too early to say if it is the start of a trend or not.

In the case of China, the Iranian war presents a great opportunity to test various weapons against Western equipment in a war setting. It can be one massive R&D playground for China to test various ideas rather than large expensive bulky weapon systems that wouldn’t survive.

likely a misinterpretation. IRGC statements refer to 'advanced new integrated air defence systems' in every statement
 
The other pilot is probably dead somewhere in Iran or got eaten by some wild animals

No way he has been hiding and surviving for nearly 20 hours
US will presumably still try to recover the body.
 
40-50% is likely too high. their stockpile was estimated at 3000-4000 before the war and they used 850 TLAMs as of 1-2 weeks ago.

so the depletion rate is likely 25-33%.

similar numbers for the JASSM. estimated 1000 / 3500 used (30% depletion)

850 was just wasted in the first few days of the war. It’s been 5+ weeks since then.

They are hiding their use. And JASSM is also much higher. Daily B-52’s are carrying 10-20 each run.
 

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