Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kobra]

Looking like a ghost town damn, recorder is bound to be in jail in next few hours...

 

[sharreman10]

I hope CIA got Trump. Wouldn't be surprised if he died of "natural cause". No one can convince me that this war is in the best interest of the US.

 

[codeforfood]

Probable. Like the Iran hostage crisis from almost half a century ago, costing the last decent American President Jimmy Carter his Presidency.

we have had pretty decent presidents up until like last two terms. Don't expect usa president to be nice for the rest of the world. My gripe with trump is that he is destroying even American interests due to his overblown narcissistic ego.

 

[PakistanLVR]

hope this maniac isn't about to give orders to do something crazy like using WMDs....

 

[Samlee]

Pakistan needs to liberate UAE now!!

UAE Qatar Oman Kuwait and Bahrain should have been a part of Pakistan in 1947 had it not been for the British

 

[ResurgentIran2]

I hope CIA got Trump. Wouldn't be surprised if he died of "natural cause". No one can convince me that this war is in the best interest of the US.

If the rumours turn out to be true, Im fairly certain the "deep state" (CIA, pentagon etc) got to him.

 

[Forsvaret]

UAE Qatar Oman Kuwait and Bahrain should have been a part of Pakistan in 1947 had it not been for the British

Pakistan and Bangladesh would still be a part of Mughal (Iranian) Empire in India had it not been for the British.

 

[Abdul q]

Trump isn’t going to be president anymore.. i believe they got him.. regime change in US maybe now

 

[XXIV]

Pakistan biggest ally is china not saudi.

If Pakistan decides to join gcc in attacking iran then the junta will be overthrown asap.

They're lot of influential people in military who will gladly stand up against saudi and uae.

Pakistan sucurtiy is on the sides of Afghanistan iran turkiye china and Russia.

 

[Samlee]

Of course Iran has the right to defend itself against the axis of evil (US / Israel) which was promised to God’s chosen people (Iranians) 5000 years ago!
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Why you laughing at my post if you don't believe me Google Persian gulf residency and sam dalrymple

 

[kobra]

UAE Qatar Oman Kuwait and Bahrain should have been a part of Pakistan in 1947 had it not been for the British

Dubai was built on expense of karachi and blood of poor pakistanis, who were killed in the name of sectarianism, racism, afghan war and whatnot! history of their airlines and role of our pia make one weep.. all thank to our selfish, incompetent and corrupt "Ashraafya"

But that not the topic for here...

 

[EugeneP]

OK Lord Elrond, one does not simply "shut down" a nuclear reactor, irrespective of the concrete shell. It takes weeks/months of gradual temperature/activity decrease by increments.

If USA attacks the power plant, the scientists will flee or be killed. Then USA will have to themselves occupy the reactor to safely shut it down incrementally. If USA occupies it, Iran might counter attack. There is also every chance that USA simply won't bother to systematically shut it down and may just tape it off, at best.

Any sort of attack on any nuclear facility is the realm of insanity, either emanating from a position of genuine mental retardation of the Americans who are charging into this battle, or even, quite deliberately, in order to provoke conditions that will ultimately lead to harm across the entire Gulf region from loss of control over fissile material. Only Israel benefits from a nuclear disaster in the Gulf...unless Iran hits them back, in which case it will be a most bitter harvest for centuries to come.

Even a badly designed power reactor has safeguards to prevent runaway reaction leading to meltdown. If it were not so, the reactor would have melted down long back whenever some equipment (like cooling pump) failed. But it is true any attack intentionally or otherwise is very stupid. Ukraine and Russia have been fighting a nasty war very near their reactors without any accident yet.

 

[Forsvaret]

...which enabled Iran to fight a defensive war...which made iran fight its most effective way possible ,so why do some on PDF say iran needs to "fight an offensive war"?

Offensive war means iran not fighting its best, which creates big and bad problems for Iran, which increases the chance Iran loses the war.

Trump put iran in the best situation for to fight its best and took that opportunity fully!

Right.
And if you go back to the days leading to this war in this thread, there were some who were advocating that Iran should do a pre-emptive strike on America and Israel. NO! That would only give some tactical gains but would place Iran in a far worse situation diplomatically and militarily!

Iran has an inalienable right to defend itself as it was promised to Iranians 5000 years ago :

 

[Master Chief]

Pakistan and Bangladesh would still be a part of Mughal (Iranian) Empire in India had it not been for the British.

You didn't understand his post.

He meant the British could have considered UAE in their withdrawal arrangements, as it was administered from Delhi at the time. As it turned out, they held onto this territory after leaving the subcontinent.

This theory of UAE acceding to Islamabad certainly has some rational basis. One even wonders what might have become of the place in some alternate timeline.

But it's all water under the bridge or even sand under the skyscraper now.

 

[Aggregate]

I hope CIA got Trump. Wouldn't be surprised if he died of "natural cause". No one can convince me that this war is in the best interest of the US.

Yup, Trump has pretty much lost his mind. Based on how many people have been fired recently in both admin and military, one should assume that there is widespread disapproval of this conflict with Iran and to keep it going.