Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Musings]

WTF does that orange buffoon know? do you still take notice of anything he says

Half of his war cabinet has been sacked or resigned. The other half are yes men. You maybe insulting orange buffoons here

 

[Aggregate]

Ground operation incoming then.

In the last 2 days, the US got a plane, a transport plane, 2 helicopters damaged/destroyed while trying to get one pilot out at a place that was not even an active theatre of war ..

That is really bad sign for how an actual ground invasion might turn out to be, for the US, where Iran would actually have proper defensive and offensive positions.

Other than usual gloating and BS by Trump, none of the sensible media and military outlets in the US are feeling they are prepared for this, especially after the events of the last 2 days.

 

[FHN]

 

[Viet]

Apparently they got stuck in the mud and hence could not lift off.

The ground looks dry, solid sandy, no mud, unlikely those cargo planes got stuck by landing. Because they are expensive I don’t think the US special forces destroyed them for fun,
so the possibility (1) those planes were damaged by missiles or gun shots.
(2) they carried something, left them behind, destroying the evidence.

 

[sharreman10]

Let this be true

 

[KingQamaR]

The issue is not that they successfully rescued their pilot, it is that for some 30+hrs, helicopters were flying low level without fear to the point where they could do slow low-level air-to-air refuelling over Iranian airspace, and the entire combined armed forces of Iran did not have the common sense to load up a few trucks of soldiers with MANPADs to shoot them down... That is where Iran failed. It would not have taken much to do that, yet we didn't see that at all. If the locals could drive to the areas, then so could have low-level specialised AD teams. It is that lack of professional conduct, or skill that we all saw fail and are disappointed in.

Iranian Military f*cd up. US landed 2-C 130s ,that they needed to drop off the vehicles and equipment that was used to search and rescue and to fight. Regarding the C-130s I doubt they expected them to get airborne again.-Essentially crash landing them according to some reports like I said to get heavy machinery in and then abandoning/ blowing up the whole equipment on the way out.


The Iranian authorities response was insane, encouraged local population to go and capture this pilot. Those who were driving for the pilot got totally annihilated by C130 fire. And Mq9 reapers airstrikes . There are shocking reports coming out that the Americans airstrikes cleared the whole area of villages to reduce the threat to this rescue.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Attack in the industrial zone in Be'er Sheva, south of the entity.

Imposing censorship on the event

 

[Musings]

Couple of days ago Iran bombed the shit out of a firm based near Tel Aviv called Teva. One of the largest drug manufacturers in the world. Crippled their supply. Now thats what hurt looks like

 

[ResurgentIran2]

We shot down one F-15 after one month and 2 pilots ejected relatively deep into Iranian territory, the second one was in Iran for > 30 hours

How many more years do you think we have to fight them to get another opportunity like this?

If recent rumours are to believed, not a matter of years but unfolding as we speak (F-15 shot down over Tehran)

 

[maverick]

C130 charred except the engines

 

[Yasser76]

After this rescue fiasco you would not think USAF would change SOPs for air missions over Iran. If it was this hard extracting 1 airmen from an area relatively near Kuwait, where US has bases, what happens to an F-15E crew going down near the Caspian or Eastern Iran?

I think we may well see a more cuatious approach from the USAF, for sure they cannot afford another "successful" rescue mission like this.

On a related note, hope Pak has not let US station CSAR assets in Baluchistan

 

[Hayabusa]

Just when I thought US can't get any cringier.

 

[tsunset]

This is a loss for Iran, but a pyrrhic victory for the US

At least multiple aircrafts were obliterated in this fiasco

I'm confident Iran will get them next time, and even more in case of an invasion

 

[Optical216]

Iranian Military f*cd up. US landed 2-C 130s ,that they needed to drop off the vehicles and equipment that was used to search and rescue and to fight. Regarding the C-130s I doubt they expected them to get airborne again.-Essentially crash landing them according to some reports like I said to get heavy machinery in and then abandoning/ blowing up the whole equipment on the way out.


The Iranian authorities response was insane, encouraged local population to go and capture this pilot. Those who were driving for the pilot got totally annihilated by C130 fire. And Mq9 reapers airstrikes . There are shocking reports coming out that the Americans airstrikes cleared the whole area of villages to reduce the threat to this rescue.

Sounds way to Hollywood but the Iranian response was indeed shambolic and slow

 

[Master Chief]

This is the wreckage from a breakup, which basically belongs to the category of an aircraft exploding in mid-air and crashing as a result. If it were blown into this state using explosives on purpose, it would take at least one ton of explosives, and they'd need to be placed in the right spots.
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Who said it was only bombed with explosives? I thought it was struck from the air as well after the personnel were extracted.

Personally, the US account is entirely believable.

I would imagine the C130 became stuck or unable to safely take off ("stuck" in the context of this doesn't necessarily mean it was sinking in mud!). I would further speculate that 2 helis became stricken due to small arms ground fire and so were rolled into the explosion box manually or with movement aids (presumably they come prepared for such circumstances in CSAR missions).

Then with all assets together, they place their bombs, evacuate on other aircraft, and follow up with an airstrike. Just my speculation, but I do believe that Iranian ground fire was limited to some small arms fire in this case.