Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

hasssanali8998 said:
April 6 (Reuters) - Iran and the United States have received a plan to end hostilities that could come into effect on Monday and ‌reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a source aware of the proposals said on Monday.
A framework to end hostilities has been put together by Pakistan and exchanged with Iran and the U.S. overnight, the source said, outlining a two-tier approach with an immediate ceasefire followed by a comprehensive agreement.

"All elements need to be agreed today," the source said, adding the initial understanding would be structured as a memorandum of understanding finalised electronically through Pakistan, the sole communication channel in ⁠the talks.
Axios first reported on Sunday that the United States, Iran and regional mediators were discussing a potential 45-day ceasefire as part of a two-phase deal that could lead to a permanent end to the war, citing U.S., Israeli and regional sources.
The source told Reuters Pakistan's army chief, Field Marshal Asim Munir, has been in contact "all night long" with U.S. Vice President JD Vance, special envoy Steve Witkoff and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi.

Under the proposal, a ceasefire would take effect immediately, reopening the Strait of Hormuz, with 15–20 days to finalise a broader settlement. The deal, tentatively dubbed the "Islamabad Accord," would include a regional framework for the strait, with final in-person talks in Islamabad.
There was no immediate response from U.S. and ‌Iranian officials. ⁠Pakistan's foreign office spokesperson Tahir Andrabi declined comment.
Iranian officials have previously told Reuters that Tehran was seeking a permanent ceasefire with guarantees they will not be attacked again by the U.S. and Israel. They have said Iran has received messages from mediators including Pakistan, Turkey and Egypt.
The final agreement is expected to include Iranian commitments not to pursue nuclear weapons in exchange for sanctions relief and the ⁠release of frozen assets, the source said.

Two Pakistani sources said Iran has yet to commit despite intensified civilian and military outreach.
"Iran has not responded yet," one source said, adding proposals backed by Pakistan, China and the United States for a temporary ceasefire have drawn no ⁠commitment so far.
There was no immediate response from Chinese officials to requests for comment.
The latest diplomatic push comes amid escalating hostilities that have raised concerns over disruption to shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, a critical artery for global oil ⁠supplies.
U.S. President Donald Trump has in recent days publicly pressed for a rapid end to the conflict, warning of consequences if a ceasefire is not reached within a short timeframe.
The conflict has heightened volatility in energy markets, with traders closely watching any developments that could affect flows through the strait.
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Unfortunately a very grim chance of any deal. They infact don't want any deal bcz the conditions represented to Iran literally means demanding a unconditional surrender.
Good thing is the whole world has to go through pain but let this problem end once and for all. I.e complete elimination of isreal and stripping US of all influence it has in middle east and west Asia.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
April 6 (Reuters) - Iran and the United States have received a plan to end hostilities that could come into effect on Monday and ‌reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a source aware of the proposals said on Monday.
A framework to end hostilities has been put together by Pakistan and exchanged with Iran and the U.S. overnight, the source said, outlining a two-tier approach with an immediate ceasefire followed by a comprehensive agreement.

"All elements need to be agreed today," the source said, adding the initial understanding would be structured as a memorandum of understanding finalised electronically through Pakistan, the sole communication channel in ⁠the talks.
Axios first reported on Sunday that the United States, Iran and regional mediators were discussing a potential 45-day ceasefire as part of a two-phase deal that could lead to a permanent end to the war, citing U.S., Israeli and regional sources.
The source told Reuters Pakistan's army chief, Field Marshal Asim Munir, has been in contact "all night long" with U.S. Vice President JD Vance, special envoy Steve Witkoff and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi.

Under the proposal, a ceasefire would take effect immediately, reopening the Strait of Hormuz, with 15–20 days to finalise a broader settlement. The deal, tentatively dubbed the "Islamabad Accord," would include a regional framework for the strait, with final in-person talks in Islamabad.
There was no immediate response from U.S. and ‌Iranian officials. ⁠Pakistan's foreign office spokesperson Tahir Andrabi declined comment.
Iranian officials have previously told Reuters that Tehran was seeking a permanent ceasefire with guarantees they will not be attacked again by the U.S. and Israel. They have said Iran has received messages from mediators including Pakistan, Turkey and Egypt.
The final agreement is expected to include Iranian commitments not to pursue nuclear weapons in exchange for sanctions relief and the ⁠release of frozen assets, the source said.

Two Pakistani sources said Iran has yet to commit despite intensified civilian and military outreach.
"Iran has not responded yet," one source said, adding proposals backed by Pakistan, China and the United States for a temporary ceasefire have drawn no ⁠commitment so far.
There was no immediate response from Chinese officials to requests for comment.
The latest diplomatic push comes amid escalating hostilities that have raised concerns over disruption to shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, a critical artery for global oil ⁠supplies.
U.S. President Donald Trump has in recent days publicly pressed for a rapid end to the conflict, warning of consequences if a ceasefire is not reached within a short timeframe.
The conflict has heightened volatility in energy markets, with traders closely watching any developments that could affect flows through the strait.
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What guarantees could anyone possibly provide that would result in actual assurances? Unless there is some coalition of countries in the region willing to go in and deploy assets for keeping the peace, no one can insure anything.

Diplomatic cookie points, I suppose....
 
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Strange how they landed C130s 200 miles away in Isfahan, home to 9 tons of enriched uranium. You don’t call 100 special forces , 2 c-130s and dozens of helicopters for 1 stranded airman. This was a military operation that failed , which was to steal Iran enriched uranium
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couple of things I can think of

it is said that CIA played a big part in the rescue mission so its possible there are moles on the ground who helped the pilot relocate and hide perhaps even with vehicles

there is no side mission going on, they just want redundancy and low tolerance for error, notice how everything they sent in has a backup and in even numbers, goes to show the Americans really have no stomach for pilot casualties or a potential PR disaster which is odd considering fighter pilots gets caught and paraded all the time. maybe a weakness for Iranians to exploit on?
 
RescueRanger said:
Their control on media is impressive. Let's be honest.
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Not at all.
It's extremely easy to control the media when you live in an ethno-fascist state where one ethnicity controls everything and is doing everything to survive their inevitable fate while the other ethnicity is scared to death to break the law.
 
ShapurII said:
Not at all.
It's extremely easy to control the media when you live in an ethno-fascist state where one ethnicity controls everything and is doing everything to survive their inevitable fate while the other ethnicity is scared to death to break the law.
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I'm talking about control of narrative in mainstream and alt spaces. Harbara squads work overtime.

But yes latter is true. I agree with you.
 
RescueRanger said:
I'm talking about control of narrative in mainstream and alt spaces. Harbara squads work overtime.

But yes latter is true. I agree with you.
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I don't know what you mean by alt spaces, but reddit is pretty anti-Israeli at the moment.
 
TallarnDesertRaider said:
What guarantees could anyone possibly provide that would result in actual assurances? Unless there is some coalition of countries in the region willing to go in and deploy assets for keeping the peace, no one can insure anything.

Diplomatic cookie points, I suppose....
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I really think china will be the one providing some guarantees , Pakistani FM did visit china few day ago and this article also mentions china backing it

but chances of this deal going thru are very slim , IF it were to happen china would be the guarantor ( in what capacity idk)
 
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Iran’s Downing of Plane and U.S. Rescue Leave Both Sides Dangerously Emboldened​

After Iran shot down a U.S. plane and U.S. forces pulled off a risky ground operation to extricate a stranded airman, both sides claimed victory. That confidence could fuel further escalation.

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