Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[2ndstrike]

Israel and US are trying to hurt entire Muslim world with this war :


1.) Mutual destruction of Arabian Peninsula and Iran

2 .) Forward pressure via refugees pushing toward Pakistan

3.) Setting stage to clear out Gaza and attack Egypt

4.) Facilitating proxy Druze offensive in Syria

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Muslim leaders must firmly tell United States to stop Israel in its tracks now and we mean it

After this war ends, the entire Middle Eastern Islamic countries will be battered, leaving only those of North Africa being spared from destruction.

 

[Immortals]

Am willing to guess you done at least basic research on SIGINT and did not like what you found.

20 years of studying Iranian military, I can tell you with high levels of confidence nearly all finished Chinese weapon systems came during the 90s to early 00s.

There was no real attempt to ever procure big ticket items from China. Most of the military ties was in the realm of components and raw materials and solid fuel mixers for missiles and laser ring gyroscopes.

No fancy radars (although there was some cooperation on radar R&D at company level).
No big air defense systems
No missiles or supersonic cruise missiles
No warships (although some armed speedboats were bought in the 90s)
No airforce (after the failed J-10C negotiations)

Iran preferred to rely on Russian and whatever it could reverse engineer from Israeli, American, and Russian designs. There was very little inspiration to introduce the Chinese ecosystem into the armed forces or reverse engineer Chinese equipment. Iran didn’t even reverse engineer LONG drone despite having access to it via shoot downs in Yemen war. Meanwhile it reverse engineered Israeli and American drones it could find.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Then you have to re-read what Clausewitz originally said: War is the continuation of POLICY by other means.

Trust is a side issue. POLICY is the main issue. If you cannot find yourself to trust Iran under the mullahs, what do you believe is their policy if Iran is a nuclear weapons state? Keep in mind, you could be wrong, just like anyone else here.

War is the continuation of politics by other means!
Carl von Clausewitz.
Politics my guy...
Or you quoting some clusterfritz?
In bolds too...

 

[the saint]

 

[Falcon29]

 

[the saint]

 

[Immortals]

So, what happened? Did Iran attack Israeli energy sector?

There are 33 new pages since when I signed off lol

4th biggest petrochemical refinery in the world (Saudi Arabia) was hit with 3 BMs.

 

[Falcon29]

After this war ends, the entire Middle Eastern Islamic countries will be battered, leaving only those of North Africa being spared from destruction.

Middle East has been battered since first Gulf War and nobody is leaving it. Material infrastructure can be rebuilt but a forward posture against Israel will be needed to prevent future destruction

 

[cir]

good show by YFQ-42A

 

[Immortals]

 

[ShapurII]

Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran."
Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 11: “You never like to say too ⁠early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.”
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all."
Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me."
Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help."
Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait"
Mar 22: "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran."
Mar 24: "We’re making progress."
Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.”
Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away."
Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO."
Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences."
Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon."
Apr 2: “The straight will open up naturally”
Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen."
Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Mar 3: "We won the war."

Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."

Mar 9: "We must attack Iran."

Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."

Mar 11: “You never like to say too ⁠early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.”

Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."

Mar 13: "We won the war."

Mar 14: "Please help us."

Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."

Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all."

Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me."

Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."

Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help."

Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."

Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."

Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz."

Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."

Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it."

Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait"

Mar 22: "Iran is Dead"

Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran."

Mar 24: "We’re making progress."

Mar 24: "[Iran] gave us a present and the ⁠present arrived today, and it was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money."

Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.”

Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away."

Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO."

Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences."

Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon."

Apr 2: “The straight will open up naturally”

Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen."

Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."

Sometime shortly after 1700MST tomorrow (0330 Tehran time), we'll know for sure.

 

[ShapurII]

Sometime shortly after 1700MST tomorrow (0330 Tehran time), we'll know for sure.

It's still hilarious, nevertheless. The US has become the laughing stock of the world.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The Iranian Mullahs are the reason why the GCC has submitted itself to the Zionists of the USA. The iranian mullahs have inflicted constant instability in the regioan, exactly as required by the previous British Empire as well as the Anglo-Saxon American Empire and now the Zionist American super power. Otherwise these Arabs are the would be sons of Shah Faisal who believed they would go back to living in the desert eating only dates and drinking only goat milk.

How old are you?

The pro western Shah had seized UAE islands a territorial dispute that is still ongoing. GCC regimes were installed before the Iranian revolution...
It's like those zionist talking points that they've been having eternal dispute with Arabs in Palestine... while they landed a generation to two ago. Miliekowsky, polak born in the US to a professor at Cornell born in Warsaw.

Just dig a little before running with narrative often putting carts before the horse.

 

[Immortals]

UAE refinery might also be burning again