Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Musings]

@flyingorca
This bro is not the thread to discuss and bring Pakistan politics up. Please dont do it again

 

[Immortals]

 

[Fatman17]

Iran needs to launch 200-300 drones per day on GCC

And i mean take the gloves off

everything and anything

That means over 10,000 drones per month

Russia is building over 5,000 drones per month and has consistently launched over 5,000 per month for 24 months

I wonder what Irans production capacity is under war conditions maybe 2000-3000 per month

Before the war it was estimated that Iran had over 10,000 drones shaheed 136

Iran has the ability to cause massive destruction

Let’s see what comes of it

They should hold the ballistic missiles for Israel only and make sure to have plenty of cluster ones

For the ballistic missiles Iran had a production capacity of 70-100 missile per month that under war conditions may have dropped

It China and Russia are resupplying the the situation improves

Iran has the missiles but has a problem with launching them

 

[mythbuster]

It is Iran's only chance of establishing deterrence.

Iran faces two options:
1. Unconditional surrender, become a US puppet state and an Israeli ally.
2. Establish deterrence again.

This is the last stage for Iran under the Islamic Republic. There will be no Islamic Republic if Iran does not win this war.

Be realistic sir , even hundreds drones and missile launches everyday won't establish deterrence..... there was a saying during cold war days ! Better red than dead .

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

It’s the Final Countdown to Armageddon

 

[Zoyou]

 

[F.O.X]

There will be no "throw another punch". It is either unconditional surrender and become a US-puppet state serving Israel in the region, or stand and fight.

there is always another punch, nothing is constant or permanent. look at Japan, Germany among the few.

 

[Homajon]

What political support did North Korea have? They faced Chapter VII sanctions.

The sanctions were just facade. China and Russia couldn't openly act against the NPT and openly support a Korean nuke, so they voted for sanctions.

Nobody gives you nuclear weapons on a silver platter. That's just fantasy.

Scientific knowledge is not the issue these days. Nearly every country in the world has the know-how to develop nukes. Having the engineering tools with fissile material is the issue.

Over the years, I have read extensively about the topic of nukes....it would be way too time consuming now to talk about it, so very short:

Even before the establishment of the NPT, but especially after the NPT every country that got a nuke only got it because they had the support of at least one major nuke country.

But even Russia and China are against an Iranian nuke, and that is also the reason for Khameneis fatwa: not because he really believed that nukes are Haram, but because he knew nobody would accept an Iranian nuke.

And if theoratically tomorrow Iran would test a nuke, then only because Russia and/or China somehow changed their mind....but as long as that does not happen, Iran will NEVER have a nuke....accept it!

 

[Immortals]

 

[Optical216]

Learn the lesson, in the law of the jungle only nuclear weapons are your gurantee to safety. otherwise you will be eaten by vultures.

 

[Zoyou]

 

[mythbuster]

The sanctions were just facade. China and Russia couldn't openly act against the NPT and openly support a Korean nuke, so they voted for sanctions.



Over the years, I have read extensively about the topic of nukes....it would be way too time consuming now to talk about it, so very short:

Even before the establishment of the NPT, but especially after the NPT every country that got a nuke only got it because they had the support of at least one major nuke country.

But even Russia and China are against an Iranian nuke, and that is also the reason for Khameneis fatwa: not because he really believed that nukes are Haram, but because he knew nobody would accept an Iranian nuke.

And if theoratically tomorrow Iran would test a nuke, then only because Russia and/or China somehow changed their mind....but as long as that does not happen, Iran will NEVER have a nuke....accept it!

Logic gets drowned in the flood of emotions...if you talk logic you are declared enemy.

 

[Bengal71]

Iran doing Pakistan a huge favour. Pakistan as a whole applauds Iran for rocking the glass house entity of the UAE.....

Ya Pakistanis, donate some missiles to the Iranians, preset the co-ordinates of Dubai ports, this is your chance.

 

[Immortals]