Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Abdul q]

China thinks about its interests, and its support for Iran is not for its eyes, but to confront America and reduce its influence. It is a real global game. But using the veto will harm the world's and in particular Gulf's relations with China. This is not in China's interest..

China is a minion in global power projections…. Its funny how they couldn’t even complete CPEC right next to their door….

 

[iron shrapnel]

Emotional speech at Punjab assembly, subtitles for English:

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Pakistani confused mentality at the time: we should support Iran, Iran will supply us with cheaper fuel and the Arabs are playing us anyway..
Meanwhile,
Iranian oil refineries are being bombed..
In response,
They bomb Saudi refineries that supply Pakistan...
Russian oil fields are being targeted by the Ukrainians as well...
So, where tf are you going to get your fuel IF there aren't going to be any oil refineries in ME that can or could supply you oil ?

Trying to sound morally right while being at the brink of crisis is only possible here...

It's also clear now that both ME sides will not be able to benefit from any price hikes if this continues and the real money will be made by U.S...

 

[Falcon29]

If this terrorist regime in US uses nukes then it will allow russia to take similar actions in Ukraine…. And the US’s biggest market Europe will suffer… eventually everyone will suffer

They aren't even contemplating using nukes. Trump thinks destroying power plants + oil triggers end of Iranian civilization. This is what he's referring to.

It is still beyond unacceptable that he's threatening war crimes on behalf of Israel and the Jewish-American community which started not only this but also facilitated the genocide in Gaza

 

[hasssanali8998]

Pakistan’s FM Ishaq Dar has blamed Israel for trying to spoil Islamabad’s efforts to facilitate ceasefire talks between the US and Iran by attacking Tehran when “both sides were in a stage to sit down”.

 

[PakFactor]

Exactly and I was only conveying Iranian sentiments on the said "deal":
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Indeed. There is also another element, who's going to guarantee a permanent cease-fire? How will the U.S. and Israel be held accountable, and what mechanisms will be in place if the U.S. and Israel violate it again? History has shown the Israelis speak with a forked tongue, and their cease-fire means nothing.

* Throughout this negotiation, the main actor, Israel, was absent.

Lastly, they are using the European approach, in which Russian assets are used to fund Ukraine's military and then rebuild parts of the country; the Iranian's want the same, though they can back off from this if a deal is imminent.

There is a depth to what the Iranians want that Pakistan was not the party to handle the negotiations.

 

[Abdul q]

Pakistan’s FM Ishaq Dar has blamed Israel for trying to spoil Islamabad’s efforts to facilitate ceasefire talks between the US and Iran by attacking Tehran when “both sides were in a stage to sit down”.
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Everyone knows everything… yet nobody’s doing anything…. I have suggestion Pakistan’ should leave its nest now and secure Iranian airspace from terrorists jets , talk from position of strength

 

[r3alist]

Pakistani confused mentality at the time: we should support Iran, Iran will supply us with cheaper fuel and the Arabs are playing us anyway..
Meanwhile,
Iranian oil refineries are being bombed..
In response,
They bomb Saudi refineries that supply Pakistan...
Russian oil fields are being targeted by the Ukrainians as well...
So, where tf are you going to get your fuel IF there aren't going to be any oil refineries in ME that can or could supply you oil ?

Trying to sound morally right while being at the brink of crisis is only possible here...

It's also clear now that both ME sides will not be able to benefit from any price hikes if this continues and the real money will be made by U.S...

It's called balancing interests.

Is this Pakistan's war, why would you want it to be.

Both sides have chosen maximilist approaches and notice china and Russia keeping a very safe distance away, as Iran engages their foes at it's cost

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger - I told you she will "break down" ...

Useless bastards.

 

[Abdul q]

Useless bastards.

Bro that’s our ship show some respect

 

[RescueRanger]

It was dead on arrival; once the conditions were known.

I don't believe any Pakistani takes pleasure in Pakistan's failure, but those who understand this know it was the most Pakistani-like deal a country like Pakistan would accept, unlike the Persians. The mistake was thinking Iran would be like Pakistan.

@RescueRanger did you see the UN vote? Russia finally vetoed something for once.

Well the region is facing a grim future presently.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Useless bastards.

any new osint or unusal things ??

 

[r3alist]

Everyone knows everything… yet nobody’s doing anything…. I have suggestion Pakistan’ should leave its nest now and secure Iranian airspace from terrorists jets , talk from position of strength

An Iranian controlled strait's of Hormuz means you are at Irans good will mercy.

Think ahead possible scenarios

 

[Falcon29]

Jews in america are two different types. ones who are not a part of Zionist movement and ones who are.... So the ones who support zionism strongly support Israel.

I don't buy that. I know it's something they try to advertise about themselves but I don't trust this whole entire ethnicity and would treat the entire ethnicity as an enemy in event of exisistential war of survival

 

[Forsvaret]

Shehbaz Sharif: The government and people of Pakistan stand with Saudi Arabia, just as Saudi Arabia stood with them before

This is to be expected as Shahbaz Sharif is NOT an elected leader. The real leader backed by Pakistanis is currently in prison.

 

[Aad80]

Nuclear weapons or not, Pakistan will plunge into darkness if it makes a wrong move.