Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

What I want to request Iran is that, use all your missiles on Israel.

You cannot deter Israel by bombing GCC countries.

We actually can.
We will obliterate GCC states to first of all, stop the funding of this war by Arabs and make them realize that Iran is going nowhere before they are fully obliterated.
Secondly, that will increase oil prices to $200 per barrel, forcing the US and the Europeans to put a leash on their mad dog in the Middle East.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Pakistan PM proposal is the dumbest proposal I have ever heard.

“Please Iran give away your leverage for 2 weeks so U.S. and Israel can devise new ways to bomb you further”.

The strait is the only reason the U.S. is negotiating with Iran. Why would Iran open it to give Trump a victory just so he can ask for surrender in two weeks?

Is this how Pakistan negotiates?

look at from pakistani pov

we need gulfs oil and gas hence open the hormuz
nothing more than that

 

[r3alist]

Pakistan PM proposal is the dumbest proposal I have ever heard.

“Please Iran give away your leverage for 2 weeks so U.S. and Israel can devise new ways to bomb you further”.

The strait is the only reason the U.S. is negotiating with Iran. Why would Iran open it to give Trump a victory just so he can ask for surrender in two weeks?

Is this how Pakistan negotiates?

What's good about it? 2 weeks for the US and Israel to retool and prepare ground troops? This is an insult to any Iranian.

If you can propose a middle ground that both sides would accept then do not hesitate to share.

Don't you normally need a cessation so that talks can happen.

If there is no middle ground, and the language from both sides is about absolute victory, or absolute loss, then all anyone can do is try, hope and pray.

 

[Bilal]

It’s true Pakistan is humiliating itself. Distance yourself. Let them figure it out themselves.

 

[Arash]

Emotional speech at Punjab assembly, subtitles for English:

What do they say ?

 

[Homajon]

Just a reminder, there are many other heavy weapons other than nukes:

China tests non-nuclear hydrogen bomb, science paper shows

The weapon generates a white-hot fireball that lasts 15 times longer than TNT’s fleeting flash.

www.scmp.com

China’s new weapon shocks the world: Is this Hydrogen bomb a game-changer for modern warfare?

Chinese researchers have tested a new hydrogen bomb that uses magnesium hydride to create a sustained fireball without nuclear materials. This weapon's high heat intensity allows for targeted destruction of military assets. Alongside this breakthrough, China continues to modernise its military...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

And this is just one example! Who knows what is possible, so Iran doesn't need nukes. So I agree with this:



So even if the US theoratically would use nukes, Iran will have some sort of adaquate answer, whatever that may be!

 

[hussain0216]

Folks saying Arabs should kick US out from their soil...erm what if America refuses to leave? What will they do then?
The yanks should never have been welcomed in that part, or any part, of the world.

The Iraqis agreed in parliament to kick the U.S out of Iraq


The U.S refused to go and are still there

If they keep getting hit they might actually finally be thrown out

 

[Immortals]

 

[Aggregate]

What's good about it? 2 weeks for the US and Israel to retool and prepare ground troops? This is an insult to any Iranian.

If both sides can have 2 weeks to cool down, it will save power plants, bridges, infra that would take decades to build, save a huge amount of lives.

Now the US knows it cannot take out Iran militarily, what we need, is to deescalate to a point where both sides have a chance to diffuse things off gradually.

Kind of like how it happened with Pakistan/India in 2025. Emotions were high on both sides, both sides also knew assured destruction, both did not want to leave at a weak position, but after ceasefire, senses prevailed, India understood that a war with Pakistan is not viable anymore and since then no other war has taken place despite usual incidents on both sides. If peace is given a chance, it can save a lot of bloodshed and Us might as well alter its strategy regarding Iran, based on the recent fiasco that they got stuck into.

It will have to end later, with a lot of damage for both sides or it can end now, where Iran can talk from a far high powerful position than in the past. Uranium will be preserved, Missile program will be preserved and if anything happens again, then Iran will always have Hormuz as a strong weapon for the future,

 

[Blain2]

Pakistan PM proposal is the dumbest proposal I have ever heard.

“Please Iran give away your leverage for 2 weeks so U.S. and Israel can devise new ways to bomb you further”.

The strait is the only reason the U.S. is negotiating with Iran. Why would Iran open it to give Trump a victory just so he can ask for surrender in two weeks?

Is this how Pakistan negotiates?

What option/choices do you have? Clearly Iran and US are both out of options.

Iranian infrastructure will be damaged even more if Pakistan does not buy more time. So the US does not need 2 weeks to plan on how to bomb Iran. It can do that tonight and continue for the next month.

Iran will do the same to GCC (Israel goes Scott-free since Iran has no ability to hit its key nemesis meaningfully) and the economy of the GCC/Iran will be set back by at least 5-7 years (I am being optimistic).

 

[Yasser76]

I was in Iran for the Persian new year (+3 weeks after the start of the war) and all my family and friends are in Iran. So, shut the f*ck up.

Yeah, well done you, you went on holiday. Now back in US asking others to do your fighting.

Thankfully Iranians I know are not cowards like you or as dumb

 

[baqai]

Not sure why members keep on resorting to such logic?

This has NOTHING to do with Trump's face-saving and all to do with Pakistan not wanting to get involved in a shooting war with Iran.

Trump can manage his own face-saving. He does not need Pakistan to do that. What Pakistan needs to do is not fight this KSA-Iran war somehow inshallah.

This statement can and will be used by Trump if he wants, i am not saying that Shahbaz was asked to post that, Shahbaz is navigating through this mess with our own POV

 

[Yasser76]

This statement can and will be used by Trump if he wants, i am not saying that Shahbaz was asked to post that, Shahbaz is navigating through this mess with our own POV

However we get to an off ramp it can only be a good thing

 

[dbc]

what are they singing? Is it a patriotic song? Or a song from a popular Iranian band?

 

[Bilal]

Yeah, well done you, you went on holiday. Now back in US asking others to do your fighting.

Thankfully Iranians I know are not cowards like you or as dumb

I think it’s time to not be more Irani than Irani. Let them be.