Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

What option/choices do you have? Clearly Iran and US are both out of options.

Iranian infrastructure will be damaged even more if Pakistan does not buy more time. So the US does not need 2 weeks to plan on how to bomb Iran. It can do that tonight and continue for the next month.

Iran will do the same to GCC (Israel goes Scott-free since Iran has no ability to hit its key nemesis meaningfully) and the economy of the GCC/Iran will be set back by at least 5-7 years (I am being optimistic).

Iran wants a permament end to the war. Not a fragile ceasefire that Israel will violate like it did in Lebanon and Gaza. Iran has negotiated in good faith without pre conditions TWICE before and been bombed. The era of cowering to US is over.

Pakistan PM needs to use his brain instead of praising Trump every chance he gets like he did at the Board of Peace Event.

 

[ShapurII]

Brother, trust me, if Pakistan towed Saudi and US line Iran would not exist.

Pakistanis have a great respect for Iran and it's people, despite the bad image you seem to be giving them

Bro, trust me. Pakistan may cease to exist without Iran, but not the other way around.

Yeah, because you are giving us a very beautiful image of Pakistan by writing such bullshit.

 

[hasssanali8998]

He is the one who is replying to me and attacking me. I cannot care less about his sorry existence, to be honest with you.

he attacked u becasue u made of fun pakistan , would u not do the same

Yes, we will, you keep nation building....in Milan....

dude c'mon

 

[Falcon29]

 

[Starlord]

I guess actually we are trying to stay out of this by getting into this.

If the attacks happens and KSA finds itself the primary target of Iranian missiles? Will put us in a difficult position.

And ofcourse the energy crisis will be unprecedented - so perhaps not so easy to just go to watch mode.

Can we even afford to go into just watch mode? cause directly or indirectly we will be dragged into this war, and maybe next time our ships will not pass through the SoH with ease, what will happen then? we are already risking the relationship with GCC by not actively taking part in KSA defense, and if we lose all of GCC and according to Iranians here we are the reincarnation of Devil so we are making enemies out of both.

 

[Bilal]

i guess seeing how much it will effect us , we had to do something

“Had” to. And we have. Everything has a time and place.

 

[Musings]

Pakistan PM proposal is the dumbest proposal I have ever heard.

“Please Iran give away your leverage for 2 weeks so U.S. and Israel can devise new ways to bomb you further”.

The strait is the only reason the U.S. is negotiating with Iran. Why would Iran open it to give Trump a victory just so he can ask for surrender in two weeks?

Is this how Pakistan negotiates?

What the fukc do you expect them
To do?
Negotiations and talks mean compromise - give and take. Both parties have to release the stubbornness and allow a deal to be reached. What do you want Pakistan to do? Walk away and let armagedeon begin?

 

[Yasser76]

Bro, trust me. Pakistan may cease to exist without Iran, but not the other way around.

Yeah, because you are giving us a very beautiful image of Pakistan by writing such bullshit.

Yeah, well say what you want. 200 plus nuclear warheads may disagree with you. You see to misunderstand Pak desire for peace as weakness. Indians often make this mistake too

 

[Immortals]

The peacemaker becomes the easy target.

Pakistan will soon have to shift from supporting Iran to contemplating a reality where Iran expects its neighbors to incur costs without complaints, and then also consider an Iran which will believe it controls the straits, like a regional hegemon. This seems like a possibility.

You have been getting oil and LnG thru the strait because of your relations with Iran and yet want to flip sides because the country of Baboon Arabia is being hit after offering its bases and airspace to U.S. and paying $2B to Trump’s son in law.

 

[Blain2]

We tried to save the Afghans post 9/11, but you can’t make anyone do things if they don’t want.

Now insults have started to fly even if you are doing it in good faith. Thats when you stop and let things run its course. Its going to run its course whether we want it or not, because the parties involved have decided it to be so.

See Side-winder's post above. This is the point that I have been making for over a week. Pakistan brokering peace is because Pakistan does not want to get roped into the war and pick sides.

Thus, spectating isn't much of an option for Pakistan given the current trajectory.

 

[Yasser76]

What the fukc do you expect them
To do?
Negotiations and talks mean compromise - give and take. Both parties have to realease the stubbornness and allow a deal to be reached. What do you want Pakistan to do? Walk away and let armagedeon begin?

He probably does, its ok though, he is safe in US....

 

[Falcon29]

White House to Axios: Trump will issue a response later regarding Pakistan's initiative on Iran

 

[r3alist]

Absolutely, but in my opinion that stage has arrived. Of course, that’s just my opinion.

Yes, you look to be correct sir.

 

[baqai]

Keep your nation building lectures to yourself.

you don't need to be rude, pick your fights carefully, there are people here who care for Iran and her people, your posts are just creating an unecessary rift here

Reality check for you, keeping opinions to one self will totally negate the purpose of a DISCUSSION FORUM

 

[Yasser76]

White House to Axios: Trump will issue a response later regarding Pakistan's initiative on Iran

This could be the best news. Praying Trump and Iran go for this.