Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

Ok so let's assume, as you are implying surreptitiously, that it was dictated by the Americans.

If that is the case then maybe Iran should have refused. It is as simple as that. Don't shoot the messenger. If Iran and Iranians don't like the message, say no and deal with the repercussions.

What I find "funny" is this wanting to have your cake and eat it too. Pakistan did what it could to pull the countries back from the brink.

I never mentioned Americans. If anything I’d say China was the involved party.

 

[the saint]

 

[r3alist]

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

But we still have a Jewish son of a whore threatening annihilations in Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Iran and God knows where else now

China didn't do shit until it takes steps to isolate Israel.

They are all scared of even saying a few words towards Jews

China doesn't want to lump other Jews with Israel.

However, Israel is still quite pissed at China, much more than at Russia.

China pivoting toward antisemitism, driven by geopolitics, report finds; China rejects ‘unfounded’ claims

JPPI says Beijing's escalating rivalry with the US, alignment with Muslim nations, and adoption of anti-Western narratives is changing its previously positive attitude to Jews

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[the saint]

 

[ShapurII]

But then if they do the cease fire ends, and what do you imagine can massively mobilise in two weeks?


The economic disaster imagined has not happened in the west, it has happened to other neighboring countries. Meanwhile Iran is seriously taking damage and more has been promised before the ceasefire.

This whole line of thinking is either flawed or hyperbolic.

Their amphibious ships will pass through the Strait of Hormuz and they will transport more troops and station them there. More CSGs will arrive near the Arabian Sea. Also, they will send more ABMs to the region.

The economic disaster is very much a real thing in the world.

 

[RocketLaw]

Madness and Disaster

 

[Immortals]

Another BM launch towards Israel. Iran is getting some last shots in.

 

[RocketLaw]

I have found out.

This is what actually happened, nothing more nothing less.

A draft message was shared with Washington and Tehran, clearly labeled:
“Draft – Pakistan PM’s Message on X.”

But apparently, basic comprehension is too much to expect from some people, especially from my Indian friends.

 

[Meengla]

If Iran collects tolls over the next 2 weeks will be one indicator of where this ceasefire goes.

The 'ceasefire' is beyond a few Shekels or Dollars or Dinars or Rupees.

 

[r3alist]

 

[BigMela2onin]

I expect US will push hard on missiles and enrichment but everything else they may allow as those can slowly be reversed over time.

 

[Blain2]

These are the Key Aspects of Iran's Proposal for permanent End to Hostilities:
-A lasting peace agreement rather than a temporary ceasefire.
-Security Guarantees: Assurances that Iran will not be attacked again.
-Lifting Sanctions: Complete removal of all US sanctions imposed on Iran.
-Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran would reopen the vital energy route but charge a $2 million fee per vessel, to be split with Oman.
-Regional Security: End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and other regional attacks.
-Reconstruction Funding: Revenue from the Strait to be used for rebuilding infrastructure rather than direct reparations

 

[Ali_Baba]

I am happy that there is some form of peace. But sadly, this peace is not going to last. IMHO, Iran is stepping on clouds if it believes that USA and Israel will honour their agreement here.

It's time to look forward. Quickly recover, build up defences and get ready for the next war. Because as long as Trump is around, it will come hard. And please GET THE DAMN NUKE!

Trump was the first and last US president who got trapped into a war with Iran. Others won’t so stupid..

 

[Garcia Sea]

I'm sorry to say this, but how foolish the rulers of Iran are.
They're giving Iran two weeks of rest so the Epstein coalition can resupply its weapons and ammunition and prepare to invade again.
Furthermore, they're opening the Strait of Hormuz, their only card, without any guarantee of peace.
This is unconditional surrender, and a betrayal of all Iranian soldiers and patriots. The ultimate victors were the reformists who sought to dismantle Iran: Trump and Netanyahu.
When the Epstein coalition's large-scale invasion resumes in two weeks, Iranian soldiers will no longer have the will to fight and will easily lay down their arms.
Iran has lost the war. They were fighting tactically well, but succumbed to Trump's threats, surrendered, and sold out their country.