Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Garcia Sea]

Trump stated on TruthSocial that Iran has abandoned uranium enrichment. He also claimed that Iran has accepted many of the 15 surrender terms. This is the folly of unilaterally laying down arms. If you disarm first, the peace terms can be arbitrarily decided by the other side. A ceasefire without conditions is exactly the same as unconditional surrender. The negotiations starting on Friday will only force Iran to formally sign the surrender document. Moreover, that conciliatory president whose name I don't even want to mention will be present, so the outcome is already obvious. Once the reformers unilaterally sign the surrender document, that's it; there's no way to reverse it. The game is over.

 

[ShapurII]

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Now Trump says there will be no enrichment and refers to his 15 point plan

What a farce

Total capitulation by Iran. The IRGC got screwed over.

 

[Master Chief]

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Now Trump says there will be no enrichment and refers to his 15 point plan

What a farce

Hold him to his word on Iran's ten point plan, or deliver immediate consequences. In fact, if the terms are truly dead on arrival, then start the "consequences" already, as Israel would do. It has been less than 24 hours. Beat them at their game. Pakistan and China and even Russia have all read the texts and know the ground realities, whatever they try to spin now.

 

[lightning f57]

If you think China should not mediate the Iran War, what do you think China should do? Declare war on the United States and initiate WW3?

You need to understand that the UAE can build a canal to avoid the strait, and Saudi Arabia can pull Pakistan into the battlefield. If these two situations occur, Iran will really fall into the abyss.

We will temporarily cease hostilities and use the intact China Iran railway to stockpile military supplies for two weeks. Beneficial for the ceasefire agreement to stop attacking US bases and provide Arab countries with a reason not to join the war. This is in line with Iran's interests.

Well its starting to make sense why they bombed railways if they wanted to make it difficult for Iran to rearm.

 

[Dark Knight]

I can totally close my eyes and see that.

Saarrr... I have good news. We defeated them. We triumphed against the aggression of the Persians... Please extend my Iqama, saar...

A bit like this

 

[Pak-Warrior]

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Now Trump says there will be no enrichment and refers to his 15 point plan

What a farce

For war to end, obviously something Iran would have to agree to eventually.

If Iran wants sanctions relief then obviously US would demand Iran to either give up the HEU or dilute it low levels + commitments for not pursuing nuclear weapons.

 

[Prophecy]

Yep, however I would categorize the GCC countries in groups. They all do not have same agenda. They have differences in their agendas and foreign policies.

Group1: Oman, Qatar:

These countries always try for mediation and genuinely wanted no military action on Iran. Israel is very anti-Qatar, it even attacked Qatar not so long ago. Israel has always accused Qatar for funding Hamas. Oman maybe even at side of Iran as far as strait is concerned.

Group2: KSA:
Its defence strategic alliance is always with United States. However, slowly it has started to diverse with Pakistan and perhaps will try to get some Chinese hardware & partnerships without getting eyebrows raised at Washington.

Group3: Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain.
These countries are overwhelmingly linked with US based strategic architecture, two are abraham accord members. Bahrain had a US 5th fleet Naval HQs. Kuwait was used for HIMARs attacks on Iran, Kuwaiti airspace was constantly used (F-15s instance proved that). Also this Group 3 is more closely aligned with Israel & India.

So, I think Group 1 wouldn't be too much concerned and might be actually happy for the way things are ended. KSA wouldn't be extremely bothered too. Group3 might be very concerned for new status quo and may feel insecure the way things are heading.

Iran should openly embrace Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
Along with Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt.

Pakistan should aim to make it happen and bridge any misunderstandings.

Will not only strengthen Pakistan as well as regional security.

Form a security architecture/pacts for the pan-Islamic region.

Glad that UAE influence in Yemen is curtailed. Saudi and Iran should work on a strong and united Yemen.

@Persian Gulf do you think all the countries can move in this direction.
China did try something on these lines.

With differences alleviated Saudi can stop seeing Iran as hostile and likewise.
Shifting focus to Israel will automatically get rid of American security architecture/bases in the region. One of the reason why it exists is perceived hostility between SA and Iran.

 

[Persian Gulf]

For war to end, obviously something Iran would have to agree to eventually.

If Iran wants sanctions relief then obviously US would demand Iran to either give up the HEU or dilute it low levels + commitments for not pursuing nuclear weapons.

Iran has offered all of that before

The issue is being allowed to enrich even at token low levels

 

[Vapnope]

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Now Trump says there will be no enrichment and refers to his 15 point plan

What a farce

Things are hot and both sides would want to tread carefully to ensure a lasting peace. Iran will decide whats best for her and nobody will be able to dictate her otherwise. Keep your head up, bro.

 

[wangdefa]

At halftime, you need to replenish your energy and stamina because the second half will be the decisive battle.

 

[MH.Yang]

Well its starting to make sense why they bombed railways if they wanted to make it difficult for Iran to rearm.

Railways are easy to repair. Are you perhaps referring to a railway bridge?

As far as I know, the railway bridges on the China-Iran railway line hbeen damaged yet.

 

[Aziqbal]

Did someone post something about a USA withdrawal?

Any links or news ?

 

[Aziqbal]

At halftime, you need to replenish your energy and stamina because the second half will be the decisive battle.

Now that is the point

 

[LeonBlack08]

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Now Trump says there will be no enrichment and refers to his 15 point plan

What a farce

He will keep referring to 15 points in his unhinged tweets for domestic consumption, so that he can sell it as his win. He lies and effortlessly hides truth, it's just natural to him.

We will need to wait and see what exactly Iran agrees on at the end.

 

[ghazi52]

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