Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Arash]

Not like anyone cares....

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Sir - relax.

2 weeks is not enough time for there to be much of a material advantage to either USA or Israel if this starts again. No new interceptors can be manufactured in that time, there will be no new ammunition supplies as USA has had NO issues with its logistics at all ( just look at the C17 flights RescueRanger has been posting).

The only material difference is that aircrew can be rested/refreshed, that is all.

The Straits can be closed in two minutes flat.

Lets see how the talks go, if they fail, then the bloodshed will be back on again. I don't think Trump wants to get trapped into war again, so the advantage rests with Iran to extract as much as it can. Pakistan will help in this regard as Pakistan "understands" the USA far better than Iran does.

I do feel there is an opportunity for Iran to unwind decades of sanctions, and that is truly worth the risk of a delay. I don't see Iran giving up their only means of defence either, or their allies. In all likelihood it will be JCPOA with some extra trimmings at most.

Also, It gives the IRGC some time to work out new tactics against Israel, as they have been founding lacking so far. If the IRGC can come with a game plan and target list to destroy key infrastructure in the 2 weeks, then all the better ?

I could go on.. I was the same thought/mind as you, and i made 3 long winded posts in that regard where I think i echoed what you said. After some thought, I went back and deleted them as I could see the advantages for Iran also in this delay as well, with the possibility of a real peace deal.

I agree with your view.

If the United States does not accept the ceasefire terms proposed by Iran, the war will continue.

There are major issues with the production of military weapons in the U.S., and the production capacity over two weeks is roughly equivalent to nothing. This means that if the U.S. wants to continue the war, it must transfer weapons from other bases to the Middle East within two weeks. Weapons from Japan and South Korea have already been transferred to the Middle East, which took about six days. But how long will these weapons last? European countries have already refused to participate in the war or to allow the use of their airspace; how many weapons can be transported in two weeks?

Iran can close the Strait of Hormuz at any time. After the negotiations on April 10, if the United States does not accept Iran's ceasefire terms, Iran has about 12 days to prepare. The distance for Iran to receive support is very short, meaning large quantities of weapons and materials can be transported to Iran in a very short time, which is a huge advantage.

On April 7, 2026, Bahrain submitted a draft. The core content of the draft recognizes that Iran's attacks and threats against commercial ships in and around the Strait of Hormuz violated international law and constitute a serious threat to international peace and security. It strongly condemns any action that hinders freedom of navigation and "strongly encourages" countries using the commercial routes of the Strait of Hormuz to coordinate defensive actions to ensure the safety and security of navigation through the strait.

This draft is essentially seeking legitimacy for the aggression of the United States and Israel with the aim of granting other countries the legal right to attack Iran.

The draft received 11 votes in favor, 2 abstentions, and 2 against; China and Russia used their veto powers.

Accepting peace negotiations is favorable to Iran's international environment. Iran can demonstrate friendliness to the international community and reduce the negative impact caused by the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. Iran can let the international community see that the main parties responsible for ruining peace through aggressive warfare are the United States and Israel. Iran accepted peace negotiations and agreed to open the Strait of Hormuz, but it was the United States and Israel who refused the option of peace.

More importantly, every country has voices of opposition. By accepting peace negotiations, Iran can provide friendly countries with justification and legitimacy to support Iran, increasing the possibility that friendly countries will strengthen their assistance to Iran.

The Iranian people need to clearly see that behind the United States and Israel is an interest group; Iran needs to gain more support. The battlefield is not only in the Middle East; diplomacy is also a battlefield.

 

[Immortals]

Mojtaba with his little experience listened to wrong group of people.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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Now Trump says there will be no enrichment and refers to his 15 point plan

What a farce

As I said Iran has to understand what he's trying to cover that forces his hand!
Everything is financial. The oil prices will instantly hit $120 and bond yields that have dropped 25-30 basis points will climb instantly.
There is systemic risk to his bluster and he knows it... he made his casino deal knowing he was broke but played the banks and investors into backing his project that still went bankrupt.

He's fishing... reading the room.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Arash]

is he doing for real or its from some comedy?

I hope it's comedy or Indians will add being idiots to their long list of "qualities"

 

[Majestic]

Pakistan should nuke Israel. The whole of humanity will be forever in your debt.

 

[Hayabusa]

Looks like there is another man child throwing a hormonal tantrum.

 

[Arash]

One good hit to Burj Khalifa will end UAE into a parking lot.

I don't buy that, they aren't just qualified to enter any war...

 

[mangekyo]

To be honest, when I see the Iranian government and military so easily abandoning Lebanon and Yemen, I can't help but think that such a regime should be overthrown. Do they even realize how much blood they've shed for Iran? It's deplorable that the only ones trying to overthrow this theocracy are agents of the United States. Are there no patriots who want to overthrow the mullah and build a proper secular state?

Iran hasn’t abandoned anyone, but even if they did. What blood have they shed for Iran? Get out of here. Iran is the one who paid the price supporting the resistance. They are shedding blood to liberate themselves, not to liberate Iran.

 

[Aziqbal]

Iran used its liquid ballistic missiles at the start of the war because refuelling them takes time and is dangerous above ground

At the start of the war Iran had 20-30 mins to get the launchers out fire and roll back underground

Now with US air dominance that had been reduced to less than 10 mins

So Iran switched to its solid state ballistic missiles which can be launched quickly and refuelled below ground

However Iran was running low on Sodium Perchlorate a key ingredient in the manufacture of solid state missiles

They had less than 1,000 tons left which was a enough for 300-400 more missiles which was roughly 10 days supply

Iran new they could not go on for more than 2 weeks and so a ceasefire buys them time to get more chemicals from China to re arm

For every ballistic missile the Americans fired 7-8 interceptors

Interceptors takes months and years to build

Iran can build ballistic missiles in days / weeks

Iran needs less and Americans need more

This pause helps Iran more than it helps USA

So this is why ceasefire was accepted by Iran because even they know situation was getting critical

 

[Taimoor]

what the hell this is????

Its reminds me of that so called op Sindoor, which apparently is on "pause" yet keep on giving its benefits to Pakistan, I would say, Pakistan mediating is the direct consequence of that Sindoor to tandoor whatever that is called.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Are you trying portray Iran as a victim betrayed by China, Russia, and Pakistan?

Hardcore zionist Russia never misses an opportunity to betray Iran. Pakistan I think is being naive more than anything else. I think China is putting its own economic wellbeing first which means avoiding an energy crisis however they can. We will see how the negotiations go. If I am wrong then I will accept and admit it then.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The Emirates declares victory

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To he fair, what else can they do? The emiratis paid the americans 100s of billions of dollars for defence but the americans ignored them and did NOTHING to defend them. Iran is 1000× more militarily powerful than all the gulf Arab countries combined and they got a SEVERE thrashing by Iran in a way that will end the gulfi economic model. So they have to make ridiculous and retarded comments to make themselves feel better from the SEVERE misery they are NOW suffering.

What I've noticed about Arab countries is that they have a VERY similar mindset to military matters as the indians do. They buy a lot of expensive military hardware from white european nations but are VERY POOR at using them in a way that maximises their capabilities for military success and superiority. They buy things that make their militaries look good but are ineffective when it comes to REAL combat or warfare.