Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mutakalim]

What did Pakistan actually mediated here? No ceasefire document, multiple versions of the 10 point agreement, war still going on just without the U.S. involvement.

Stability needs to return in next 24 to 48 hours or this becomes a low intensity war that drags on for a couple more weeks

I think you suffered a lot at the hands of some Pakistanis otherwise no reasonable explanation come to mind for this obsession with Pakistan.

 

[RescueRanger]

@WildApache you are banned for your hate speech in this thread. Enough of your BS.

 

[Tabmachine]

No this is what real poltik by a colonial power looks like. They use the legality of the English language to trap their opponent. Obama did the same to Iran 10 years ago.

What is he is saying is accurate: they are not making iran give up its “right” to enrichment. They have that right….but they also have an agreement that says they won’t exercise that right.

That’s how they trick you and get you trapped in your own wants and words

true true, just exhibiting indignation as part of my peasant-trained mindset

 

[ghazi52]

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[Blain2]

Why would Israel ever listen to what Pakistan has to say? It was naive to expect them to completely follow an agreement.

Pakistan does not give two hoots about what Israel says. All roads in their regard lead back to Trump. If Trump says the war is over, it is over for Israel. Pakistan negotiated with the US to stop the war and it clearly stated "all allies of the United States".

That Israel will do their own things to undermine peace is known to all. The key question: Is it in the US interest to carry on with Iran?

 

[Immortals]

. That is why Pakistan asked for a 2 week ceasefire so both sides can negotiate.

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If the word of Pakistan PM means nothing, what is there to negotiate?

Pakistan did not mediate accurately or they did and the Pakistan PM is purposely lying to the public saying Lebanon was included in the agreement.

 

[Oscar]

Thank God we still have few members who understand the ultimate ambition of Israel. Majority looks at the whole conflict in isolation.

Always one of my favorite (albeit) fictional depictions of the issue from my perspective

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[Blain2]

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If the word of Pakistan PM means nothing, what is there to negotiate?

Pakistan did not mediate accurately or they did and the Pakistan PM is purposely lying to the public saying Lebanon was included in the agreement.

All part of the negotiations....as long as they are not shooting and claiming/counter-claiming on Social Media, that is progress.

The Pakistani PM's tweet was clear and included all. US could have had a change of heart...anything is possible.

 

[Immortals]

Pakistan negotiated with the US to stop the war and it clearly stated "all allies of the United States".

Why would U.S. listen to Pakistan? U.S. ultimately does what U.S. wants to do. Do you not remember the drone strikes inside Pakistan under Bush & Obama that killed many innocent civilians in Pakistan?

US doesn’t even listen to Russia when they have legal binding treaties.

The only country (besides Israel) that U.S. will even entertain the idea of listening to is China, because China has options to make it painful on the U.S. if they don’t listen.

Pakistan doesn’t have any leverage on US. Iran’s only leverage is the strait of Hormuz ruining the Republican Party’s polling and global economy, it has no real military leverage other than bombing bases that can be quickly repaired or bombing energy sites to create more leverage on economy.

 

[Goenitz]

For Pakistanis viewers. Great discussion.

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[maverick]

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sad how nasty Israeli society has become

 

[Immortals]

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[RescueRanger]

Why would U.S. listen to Pakistan? U.S. ultimately does what U.S. wants to do. Do you not remember the drone strikes inside Pakistan under Bush & Obama that killed many innocent civilians in Pakistan?

US doesn’t even listen to Russia when they have legal binding treaties.

The only country (besides Israel) that U.S. will even entertain the idea of listening to is China, because China has options to make it painful on the U.S. if they don’t listen.

Pakistan doesn’t have any leverage on US. Iran’s only leverage is the strait of Hormuz ruining the Republican Party’s polling and global economy, it has no real military leverage other than bombing bases that can be quickly repaired or bombing energy sites to create more leverage on economy.

All Pakistan has tried to do is help Iran as a brotherly Muslim country. Its a shame that instead of directing your anger and venom at Israel WHO is bombing Lebanon, you are obsessed with Pakistan.

 

[Immortals]

Iranians just talking like usual, for hours these useless government officials been yapping about revenge for Lebanon

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Meanwhile:

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[omegalamba7xl9]

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That's what Pakistan knows that many don't think about... French are super possessive about Lebanon....