Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mr X]

Good job Pakistan

You have got the Americans arrived in Islamabad

They are now forced to wait for the Iranian delegation

Keep them waiting a bit longer

You will wait for Iran because they won

Loser waits for the winner

Pakistan playing this one very well

I just wonder what kind of escort they will give the Iranians in Pakistan

There was a rumour yesterday that Iranian delegation arrived yesterday after Pakistani jets were scrambled to Iran for their protection.

But it could just be a rumour as I have no source for “word of mouth”. No matter who arrives first, the talks will be held tomorrow and the end result matters

 

[Meengla]

So it is visa upon arrival for journalists from potentially any country with a couple of exceptions.
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[Zoyou]

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[Meengla]

The toll system in SOH will be tricky for Iran if its put in indefinitely.
A reasonable compromise may be for Iran to tally up its economic loss - lets say if its $100bn then tolls will run until the damages have been recovered. An independent auditor can be nominated to confirm the money recovered.
Nations which supported the war direct or indirect, who have sanctioned Iran will be under toll. There will be exceptions for countries like Spain, Slovenia, Belgium, Ireland, lower rates or no rates for friendly countries. No Israeli ships allowed, no US military ships allowed to use the Strait.
If Oman doesnt want to be part of it, a separate account for Oman is setup they are paid annually and its up to them if they want to give that money back.
I think this is a reasonable compromise.

Very good post.
And it was brilliant for Iran to have included Oman as a toll collector. Shows fairness based on geography as well as reaching out to Oman as a friendly country.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Ideally full of better quality MANPADs for Iran ( unlikely, but one lives in hope ..).

 

[BigMela2onin]

The toll system in SOH will be tricky for Iran if its put in indefinitely.

A reasonable compromise may be for Iran to tally up its economic loss - lets say if its $100bn then tolls will run until the damages have been recovered. An independent auditor can be nominated to confirm the money recovered.

Nations which supported the war direct or indirect, who have sanctioned Iran will be under toll. There will be exceptions for countries like Spain, Slovenia, Belgium, Ireland, lower rates or no rates for friendly countries. No Israeli ships allowed, no US military ships allowed to use the Strait.

If Oman doesnt want to be part of it, a separate account for Oman is setup they are paid annually and its up to them if they want to give that money back.

I think this is a reasonable compromise.

I assume rates will be negotiable, in my opinion the toll is about immediate reparations and the ability to police and control traffic as leverage if needed in the future.

 

[Yasser76]

Ideally full of better quality MANPADs for Iran ( unlikely, but one lives in hope ..).

Apparently Chinese are providing passenger plane and PAF fighter escorts. This was one of the roles China agreed to as guarantor or the talks

 

[Aziqbal]

There was a rumour yesterday that Iranian delegation arrived yesterday after Pakistani jets were scrambled to Iran for their protection.

But it could just be a rumour as I have no source for “word of mouth”. No matter who arrives first, the talks will be held tomorrow and the end result matters

Absolutely does not matter who arrives first and yes, the end result does matter

But I think this could be part of Pakistan‘s psychological game that they are also playing

And this type of strategy is something western countries usually apply to Asian nations not the other way around

 

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[Fatman17]

A Royal Bahraini Air Force (RBAF) F-16 Block 70 fighter scored the type’s first air-to-air kill on April 1 against a pair of Iranian drones, a source familiar with the incident tells Aviation Week.

 

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[Hamartia Antidote]

If Iran was smart they should insist on IAEA inspectors to be required on every Israeli site for the next 30 years.

 

[SecularNationalist]

You are right: No one can trust Trump.
But I think the mere 2-week ceasefire vs the originally desired 6-week (by America/Israel) is driven by Iran to prevent too much regrouping to attack Iran again; Iranians seem to think they have the momentum on their side at this point. This ceasefire is real as far as what the Americans need. And it would be too lazy to think that whatever Netanyahu wants is the same as what the Americans need. They are two different countries, after all.

Neyhanyahu don't want ceasefire at all. He wants to fight till the last American.
They are regrouping and preparing for a larger attack. No doubt about it.

 

[hussain0216]

This is the main news on Israel's YNET right now. But I don't think Israel is going to get much out from it: It is an open secret Pakistani govt and people are very hostile to Israel.

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People are getting bent out of shape for nothing

I'm perfectly fine with that KA said, as FM should be be more diplomatic, sure.

But everybody is sick and tired of Israel, it truly is a cancerous tumor of a state and people

The important thing however is this, words of Khwaja Asif are just words

If you are getting more bent out of shape because of his words rather then Israel committing genocide and killing hundreds in Lebanon or striking schools and hospitals


Then you are a worthless piece of shit and you should be ignored

If on twitter or anywhere else someone tries to use this as propaganda against Pakistan
Your response should be to highlight Israeli crimes, Israeli genocidal statements, Israeli slaughter of thousands and not try to make excuses

 

[SecularNationalist]

If Iran was smart they should insist on IAEA inspectors to be required on every Israeli site for the next 30 years.

Well one of their condition is to completely kick out any IAEA inspectors out of Iran. And zero outside involvement in their uranium enrichment program.
They can't put such a condition because they don't accept isreal as a country in the first place. It needs to be eliminated with or without nukes. Giving that stupid 30 years thing means accepting isreal for the next 30 years.