Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Goenitz]

First UAE and now Turkmenistan, every dog wants to be a lion these days.

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bro. Stop thinking of enemies left and right. Your real enemy is the Zionists. Your victory will be if all are against Zionists, including the US and its citizens, and then you win them over to your side. So, concentrate on that instead of finding new enemies.

Gulf or Turkmenistan cannot go against the US overnight. See where they go from now. I hope they have learned their lessons.

 

[Ibbi32]

What exactly happens from here tho. Theress still technically a 2 week ceasefire in place. If us did not back down now when every ANALyst was claiming they were close to total collapse and completely out of weapons, what happens next? Us walking out is not an iranian victory despite any incoming cope. Iranians came in to settle the score and solidify their bargaining chips in the end they are effectively putting back a lot of those chips in the process.

 

[brazensword]

Talks collapsed.. Back to war..

Thats a reductionist take. You really expect for a deal to be reached in 1 day?

 

[hasssanali8998]

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[Mujahid]

Thats a reductionist take. You really expect for a deal to be reached in 1 day?

If u have better insight then enlighten us.. Trump will not keep quite on this insult.. Troop buildup and Pakistan sending warplanes to Saudi makes picture clear..

 

[Immortals]

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[Ibbi32]

Are you guys watching something different? He said no more negotiations, and only a final offer (which probably is "accept our terms").

I think it means him and his high level team are leaving with this offer on the table. There will probably still be diplomatic staff and channels in Islamabad to coordinate in meantime

 

[Immortals]

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[Hassan Al-Somal]

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️Iran-U.S Negotiations Update.

Iran’s FM spokesperson Esmail Baqaei says Tehran views diplomacy as a continuation of its broader struggle, stressing it will not forget past U.S. breaches or recent actions by the U.S. and Israel, which he says have strengthened Iran’s resolve.

He described the Islamabad talks as intensive and ongoing, with continuous exchanges of messages and draft texts under Pakistani mediation. Iranian negotiators, he said, are using all means to defend national rights and interests.

Discussions over the past 24 hours have covered key issues including the Strait of Hormuz, the nuclear file, sanctions relief, war reparations, and ending the conflict in Iran and the wider region.

Baqaei said progress depends on the U.S. showing seriousness, avoiding what Iran calls excessive and unlawful demands, and recognizing Iran’s legitimate rights. He also thanked Pakistan for hosting and facilitating the negotiations.

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[hasssanali8998]

Are you guys watching something different? He said no more negotiations, and only a final offer (which probably is "accept our terms").

lets see what happens

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

BREAKING

Tasnim correspondent from the negotiation site:

The Iranian team, with the attendance of Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, Seyed Abbas Araghchi, and Ali Bagheri, alongside expert committees, succeeded in preventing the United States from achieving its demands by defending the fundamental rights of the Iranian people in various political and military fields, and in the field of peaceful nuclear technology, during approximately 21 hours of intensive negotiations and consultations in Islamabad, Pakistan.

The Americans aimed to achieve concessions they could not extract during the war, including the issue of the Strait of Hormuz and the removal of nuclear materials from the country, during the negotiation sessions, but the Iranian delegation rejected that.

The Iranian team tried, through various initiatives, to push the American side toward reaching a joint framework, but American intransigence prevented this due to their irrationality and lack of realism.

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[Immortals]

Iran got played a 3rd time

These two weeks were nothing more than time for Israel to move its interceptors around and for US to bring in more air defenses, equipment and troops into the region. Israel was running lone and in single digits for interceptors. The US and Israel likely have to steal NATO stocks and Asia stocks to replenish for now.

Vance came and likely delivered the same crappy deal as before: No enrichment, No HEU, limit missiles, and drop support for Hezbollah in exchange for some sanctions relief.

Qalibaf and Argachi spent alot of political capital to make themselves look like fool.

 

[pakistaniandproud]

From a Tajik:

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[Winthorpe]

There has to be much more pain on the US side before the talks would succeed!

 

[K2RULEZ]

Iran got played a 3rd time

These two weeks were nothing more than time for Israel to move its interceptors around and for US to bring in more air defenses, equipment and troops into the region. Israel was running lone and in single digits for interceptors. The US and Israel likely have to steal NATO stocks and Asia stocks to replenish for now.

Vance came and likely delivered the same crappy deal as before: No enrichment, No HEU, limit missiles, and drop support for Hezbollah in exchange for some sanctions relief.

Qalibaf and Argachi spent alot of political capital to make themselves look like fool.

Iran too hasn't slept. There are reports it is receiving weapons from China.