Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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No deal. Neither party ready to back down from its demands (no enrichment vs control of Strait). War will resume at any moment, our diplomats must reach a safe place asap.

Every airfield within 100km of Esfahan must be closed. We must set up ambush points around the province. The U.S. will try again. And of course the same is true for southern Iranian provinces. I hope we moved some air defences there already.

We need a 50-100 missile wave against Israel on day 1, all against the same target, ideally Orot Rabin or central Tel Aviv.

We should also immediately deploy thousands of mines into the Strait.
 
mangekyo said:
I know what you’re saying and it makes no sense. If Iran believed it had the upper hand and a ceasefire would be bad for Iran. China wouldn’t be able to «force» Iran to accept a ceasefire. If China wanted the ceasefire but not Iran’s surrender, they wouldn’t force us to do anything that would jeopardize our position.

There’s no need to make conspiracies. We either got fooled again, or needed the ceasefire.
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We didn't need the ceasefire as our rate of fire had not changed in any meaningful way since Week 3. The ceasefire was forced on us at Week 6. Just like last time that Netanyahu said the war would last 12 days and we accepted the ceasefire on Day 12, this time we accepted the ceasefire before Week 6 ends.

Russia and China delayed voting on Bahrain's proposal to the UNSC until Iran agreed to the ceasefire. Trump publicly said, on many occasions, that it was the Chinese that "convinced" the Iranians to accept the ceasefire. So, this is not a conspiracy theory if it has been talked about publicly by one of the world's most influential politicians.

Now the world has 2 weeks to fill its reserves with oil and gas for the next weeks of the war. So, a huge energy shock has been delayed for the next couple of weeks. And the negotiations were 100% guaranteed to fail. No sane person would've expected differently.
 
ThoroughPro said:
It should not hard for Indians to believe Erdogan, after all they believe every non-sense that comes out of Modi's hash trap
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It’s hard to accept these facts.
Most countries seem comfortable criticizing Israel because it is an easy target.
However, no government openly speaks against Donald Trump, despite his role.
He appears to be the main driver, giving signals and support—without which even Israel would likely not take such steps.

Likely he will again nominated for Nobel peace prize, and again many countries will support it
 
MH.Yang said:
As far as I know, not only China and Russia, but also France voted against it.

So Iran doesn't need China's veto power at all. China has not used its veto power to pressure Iran.

If China had really abandoned Iran, the China Iran railway should have stopped transportation long ago. But as far as I know, not only has the China Iran railway not stopped, but four Y-20 planes have also arrived in Iran.
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Well, some of them expect China as a gun should fight their war against US for them, anything less is abandoning or betraying. China doesn't owe anything to others in the world. Just look at our bloody history, in WW II war against much more powerful and well equipped Japanese army invasion starting in 1931, China fought basically alone for years until Pearl Harbor then some foreign assistance came, literally no countries were willing to help China until 1941. In the Korean war, China again pretty much alone fought the US led 17 UN nations army for 3 years, the USSR wouldn't get involved or even provide minimal air cover as they originally promised in the beginning until Chinese army turned the tide of the war around, eventhough China and USSR were bound by military alliance treaty to help each other in case of war and it was Stalin originally asked Mao for China to intervene in the war.
 
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Of course, there's the possibility that Trump is simply insane. But logically, it's unnatural for him to suddenly revert to demanding unconditional surrender after suggesting he would accept the 10-point plan and even stating that it would bring prosperity to the Middle East. Clearly, the US never intended to end the war from the start, and the ceasefire was merely a trap to buy time and dismantle the Shiite alliance. This means that reinforced US forces will launch a large scale surprise attack before the two weeks are up.
 
As if there were any expectations.

A massive "thank you" to our neighbours for visiting us despite knowing the American and Israeli tricks.

They really wanted to buy some time. I hope Iran also has made good use of the brief pause.
 
ShapurII said:
Now that the talks have failed, we should not allow the US to choose when to resume the war.
We should attack the US aircraft carriers that are within our firing range pre-emptively. But again, as always, the Islamic Republic will not do that.
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Absolutely. One thing has been established very clearly. The Western bloc and its allies really don't care about Iranian lives. Even as the talks went on the Western countries were only concerned about the reopening of Strait of Hormuz. Iran by all means needs to put its priorities first.
 
ShapurII said:
We didn't need the ceasefire as our rate of fire had not changed in any meaningful way since Week 3. The ceasefire was forced on us at Week 6. Just like last time that Netanyahu said the war would last 12 days and we accepted the ceasefire on Day 12, this time we accepted the ceasefire before Week 6 ends.

Russia and China delayed voting on Bahrain's proposal to the UNSC until Iran agreed to the ceasefire. Trump publicly said, on many occasions, that it was the Chinese that "convinced" the Iranians to accept the ceasefire. So, this is not a conspiracy theory if it has been talked about publicly by one of the world's most influential politicians.

Now the world has 2 weeks to fill its reserves with oil and gas for the next weeks of the war. So, a huge energy shock has been delayed for the next couple of weeks. And the negotiations were 100% guaranteed to fail. No sane person would've expected differently.
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We were firing about 20 missiles a day if I’m not mistaken. Thats a low number, maybe we need this time to reorganize, dig out tunnel entrances etc?

I think Only 4 ships or so carrying oil or gas has passed the straight since the ceasefire. You’re not going to fill up the world reserve with 4 ships.
 
Starlord said:
I have a feeling that Melania Trumps press conference about Not knowing Epstein maybe connected to this conflict, and in coming days Israel may use Melania to further blackmail Trump.
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Ye you could be on the ball here. Why she had a press conference when really shes been hardly mentioned? Israeli maybe ready to use the silver bullet
 
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