Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
It appears once again Israel/US tricked Iran.

Trump needed an off ramp from his “entire civilization will die tonight” tweet. Iran stupidly gave in thinking Trump would actually do it. US sent Iran fake signals it was ready for a compromise. A naive Qalibaf thought he could show up in Pakistan and strong arm Vance and get a good deal. U.S. purposely sent false signals to secure the ceasefire that it was willing to adhere to (10 point agreement).

In the end they lied. Presented iran with the same deal in May 2025 and then when Iran refused. They set up a naval blockade on Iran.

These Iranian politicians cost Iran dearly every time they get bamboozled by the West.
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The ceasefire was just a break for both side.

Iran also needs to be replenished.

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ChineseTiger1986 said:
The ceasefire was just a break for both side.

Iran also needs to be replenished.

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Trump's blockade of SOH is specifically targeting at Iran and China, but more seriously for Iran. He wants to stop Iran's export of oil and import of products to choke or even collapse Iran's economy so that it can't continue to fight the war. He also wants to choke China's oil supplies by cut importing oil from Iran and Venezuela so that he can bargain with Xi in their summit, but, China can probably find other supplies and sources to make up. There are reports that Chinese tankers carrying Iranian oil are actually going through SOH under US blockade.
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
The ceasefire was just a break for both side.

Iran also needs to be replenished.

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That ship likely left China before the war even started assuming a 45-60 day transit.

Precursor fuels for liquid fuel missiles still requires the infrastructure to process the fuels and the ability to produce the rocket motor engines and gyroscopes and other component assembly. It’s possible Iran has some underground workshops, but large scale missile production is likely severely hampered. Unless this fuel is merely to be used on existing liquid fuel missiles hulls that have been produced pre-war.

Then there is the solid fuel side of things. Without the solid fuel mixers and casting pits, it seems unlikely iran will be able to build solid fuel or quasi solid fuel missiles in the short term, solid fuel which makes up its entire SRBM arsenal and a few of their MRBM arsenal (Haj Qassem missile, Sejil 2, and Keyibar Shekan, Fattah 1).

In short, iran will not be able replenish any significant missiles in next 2-4 weeks or even 2 months. It will likely take months for Iran to rebuild the infrastructure and important the industrial equipment (from China) to restart large scale missile production. In the meantime, some small quantities could be produced by workshops located in underground missiles bases using equipment and fuel reserves specially prepared for war time.
 
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925boy said:
Ok.....

Hmm....not really. The main reason Iran prefers Russia over China in security matters is the fact that Russia is more advanced militarily than China- most of china's tip weapons came from Russia or are copies of the Russian versions. I mean, even today, Russia IMO can,be argued to be the top molitary power in the world(*let me wait for some troll on here to still say US is the world's top military power, after its bad performance against Iran, so far*), and it has weapons neither US nor any world power possesses. 95% of world countries are afraid to fight Russia today, including US.
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US only used stand-off weaponry against Iran. Pretty much everything else in the US arsenal is basically junk!
 
This blockade is a game of chicken to see who blinks first. China is not going to rescue Iran. It has enough oil reserves to sit out for a few months while US Navy destroys world economy through the blockade. Iran economy will be heavily affected and the best bet is to come to a negotiation table.
 
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EDITORIAL: While predictions about the fate of the US-Iran negotiations range from excessively optimistic to doomsday scenarios, there does appear to be some intention on both sides to meet again and try to give peace a chance. Multiple reports in the media on Tuesday said that the two sides could meet again, possibly this week, and perhaps in Pakistan. In fact, President Donald Trump himself indicated as much.

Pakistan and other interlocutors have been working overtime to prevent a collapse in talks, and hopefully these efforts will yield positive results for the entire international community. Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar has been working the phones with various foreign capitals; with the exception of Israel, all major states want the talks to succeed.

Read more: https://www.dawn.com/news/1991832
 
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