Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
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Iranian officials suspect Trump intends to deceive them and restart the war
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Seriously? Obviously, the pause in the war was orchestrated by CIA/Mossad spies inside Iran to help the US and Israel(These were also the people who provided the location and plotted to kill certain scientists, military personnel, and Kameney himself). Following this event, Pakistan and other countries may be seen (in the near future) as mere "puppets" of Zionism for having supported the "ceasefire," which is actually a "ceaseFake."

NOTE: Mullahs and Ayatollahs must order militias to kill these people as quickly as possible, then acquire nuclear weapons (even if clandestinely via North Korea, for example, This is not difficult to do.). At this point, there are already several military personnel who are spies for the CIA and Mossad as well; some of them are known to everyone. Anything outside of this plan of action will mean the total destruction of Iran.
 
lightning f57 said:
This, my spider sense is telling me these talks could be a ploy for new attacks.
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Ceasefire is holding since past 2 weeks. Did they attack Iran or it's leadership during this time or when the first round of negotiations were inconclusive? Ceasefire gonna end in few days and new attacks would begin.Let's be more tactful, the new or deceptive attacks gonna occur after ceasefire ends. Not when Pakistan is acting as a mediator who guarantees the safety of Irani leadership during ceasefire.
 
Dalit said:
They won't and neither should we support any Arab state apart from KSA.
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The same Saudis who threatened to kick all Pakistani workers out of Saudi, demanded loan payment back ASAP, only because we wanted to attend Malaysian Summit, they also gave billions of funding to spread extremism in Pakistan and Afghanistan, spread extremist literature.
 
MNZGamerX said:
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All these memes coming from Iran about Orangeman are cute and funny and maybe it makes some or a lot feel good like they are winning but, in the end, there is going to be two outcomes over this conflict and that is either Iran agrees to Orangeman's terms or they get bombed again but this time it will be much worse. It will be much worse because this time the Orange, who kinda has a mafioso attitude, will be doing it feeling slighted. In his mind he gave the regime the opportunity for a deal and instead of taking it they wasted his time and disrespected him.

The Orangeman is sorta a history buff he often utilizes specific, cherry-picked historical figures and narratives to shape his political rhetoric and decisions and I'm pretty sure he's studied Operation Linebacker II and how it got North Vietnam to the negotiation table making a deal with US. I think if bombing restarts we're going to see something like this where in the end whatever is left of regime will comeback to make a deal.

And that is my armchair psychoanalysis of the Orangeman's thinking. He takes disrespect personal
 
The SC said:
The Iranian presidency has no effect.The main influence is the Revolutionary Guards. If an agreement is reached and Bazshkian is brought forward to sign it, it means that the Guards are the ones who passed the agreement and will attack him in the media as usual to relieve the embarrassment and show that the decision was taken by the Iranian government and shift the blame onto it. This explains the contradiction between Araqchi's and Qalibaf's tweets. Araqchi encourages a peaceful solution and Qalibaf calls for confrontation.
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I don't know enough about Iran's domestic politics but when some rogue elements from Iran launched missiles into Pakistan a couple of years ago that showed weakness in Iran's political system. It should never be like that for a nation with such severe external threats. They need one voice, one chain of commands and everything with focus and clarity.
 
Bratva said:
Not when Pakistan is acting as a mediator who guarantees the safety of Irani leadership during ceasefire.
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The cheeto on zionist leash has done nothing, NOTHING, to build confidence. Instead he has used this time to change his posture... he failed twice and is now lost in escalation trap... a textbook narcissist. He just cannot grasp at this point in time his life that the world doesn't revolve around him.
So what does it do for or against Pakistan? In worst case torpedoes it's sincerity... best case anchors it for a limited thaw!
What escapes everyone's imagination is the rats tail and its role... the real instigator behind the scenes... owing to it's size... People almost immediately start overlooking it to other more worthwhile things... while the parasite clings on...
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
The cheeto on zionist leash has done nothing, NOTHING, to build confidence. Instead he has used this time to change his posture... he failed twice and is now lost in escalation trap... a textbook narcissist. He just cannot grasp at this point in time his life that the world doesn't revolve around him.
So what does it do for or against Pakistan? In worst case torpedoes it's sincerity... best case anchors it for a limited thaw!
What escapes everyone's imagination is the rats tail and its role... the real instigator behind the scenes... owing to it's size... People almost immediately start overlooking it to other more worthwhile things... while the parasite clings on...
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Basic law, always have anarchy and confusion in the region, which opens new opportunities for Zionist and West. Easy way to steal the recourses on there own term and condition. Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Sudan, Somalia and list goes on and on. GCC wealth is control by all Western countries and now they want Iran resources to control ......
 
SolarWarden said:
The Orangeman is sorta a history buff he often utilizes specific, cherry-picked historical figures and narratives to shape his political rhetoric and decisions and I'm pretty sure he's studied Operation Linebacker II and how it got North Vietnam to the negotiation table making a deal with US. I think if bombing restarts we're going to see something like this where in the end whatever is left of regime will comeback to make a deal.
And that is my armchair psychoanalysis of the Orangeman's thinking. He takes disrespect personal
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You are not the only one. Sane, anti-war people like Scott Horton also said something like that some weeks ago. With Trump, Iran is not dealing with a rational person. Trump is a dictator with almost unchallenged power and authority especially about foreign policy. And I believe Pakistanis are trying very very hard for Iran to make a sensible compromise and live to fight another day. Pakistan was a nuclear power when 9/11 happened, and had no role in the 9/11 attacks and in fact tried to help the Americans to target Bin Laden in 1998. But after 9/11, Pakistanis swallowed their pride, dumped the Mullah Umer regime of Afghanistan and today's Pakistan is militarily, diplomatically and even economically much stronger than it was on 9/11. The journey to today's Pakistan wasn't easy as we all know the carnage Pakistan has faced in the last 25 years.
 
PakAl said:
The same Saudis who threatened to kick all Pakistani workers out of Saudi, demanded loan payment back ASAP, only because we wanted to attend Malaysian Summit, they also gave billions of funding to spread extremism in Pakistan and Afghanistan, spread extremist literature.
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I got banned for saying our national policy of beggars can’t be choosers.. the wise words of wise PM 🙂🙂🙂🙂
 
Meengla said:
Gulfies can't afford to lose Pakistan and Pakistan can't afford to lose Iran but Pakistan can afford to lose the Gulfies. It would be a big hit to lose the Gulfies due to the remittances but Pakistan would manage in some kind of Economic Martial Law.
Anyway, this is all hypothetical.
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Iran has destroyed them already! The US and Israel threw them under the bus. Abbu-G humreeka couldn’t save its own 19 bases from destruction.

It’s just an epic US defeat.
 
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