Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mobius]

 

[Blain2]

It was our understanding that KSA was actually paying for the sudanese deal with Pakistan. So if KSA now think it is not in it's interest anymore and want to cancel the deal , then what is wrong with it ? We did negotiated JF-17 deals with Srilanka and Bangladesh as well but they didn't went ahead with it because of Indian opposition.

You are looking too much into it. And no we are not slaves, as our esteemed PM said on assembly floor , we are beggers. And beggers can't be choosers.

It is not about being slaves or beggars. Solving a conflict in Sudan is KSA's prerogative, not Pakistan's. The arms deal to the Sudanese was based on some outcome that the Saudis were trying to attain. If that has become questionable, so is any largess they were going to offer to the Sudanese.

The entire undertaking was in place with Saudi green light/funding as a pre-requisite. It is a political issue between KSA-Sudan and has nothing to do with Pakistan.

 

[The SC]

Negotiations are scheduled to begin tomorrow in PakistanFirst:

The American Demands
Freezing uranium enrichment for a long period + restrictions on missiles.
Opening the Strait of Hormuz and ensuring navigation within a regional security framework.
Halting support for regional armed factions.
Transforming the ceasefire into a permanent agreement.

The Iranian Proposal
Complete lifting of sanctionsCompensation for military damages.
Acceptance of temporary suspension of enrichment (5 years) while preserving the right to it.
Linking the agreement to a comprehensive de-escalation in Gaza, Lebanon, and Yemen.
Securing Hormuz by regional countries and rejecting the American military presence.

 

[PakFactor]

Israel is catching more flak. Nobody buy's Netanyahu's lies but he is doing the usual "saddened" nonsense.

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Outrage over Israeli soldier's vandalism of Jesus statue in Lebanon​

Yolande Knell - Middle East correspondent
Mon, April 20, 2026 at 3:26 PM EDT


The Israeli military said it viewed the soldier's actions with "great severity" [Reuters]
An image of an Israeli soldier apparently hitting a statue of Jesus with a sledgehammer in southern Lebanon has prompted widespread condemnation after being widely shared online.

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he was "stunned and saddened"by what happened. Foreign Minister, Gideon Saar, said: "We apologise for this incident and to every Christian whose feelings were hurt."

Locals say the statue was on a crucifix outside a family home on the edge of Debel, one of the few villages where residents have remained during Israel's war with Hezbollah.

The head of Debel's congregation, Father Fadi Flaifel, told the BBC: "We totally reject the desecration of the cross, our sacred symbol, and all religious symbols.

"It goes against the declaration of human rights, and it doesn't reflect civility."

He claimed similar acts had happened before.

The Israeli military confirmed that the image circulating on social media was genuine, and said it viewed the incident "with great severity and emphasises that the soldier's conduct is wholly inconsistent with the values expected of its troops".

"Appropriate measures" will be taken against those involved, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) added, saying it was working with the Christian community to "restore the statue to its place".

Thousands of Israeli troops continue to occupy a wide area of southern Lebanon after a US-brokered ceasefire came into force between Israel and Lebanon on Friday.

The ceasefire has paused six weeks of fighting between the IDF and the Shia Muslim armed group Hezbollah, although both sides have accused each other of violations.

News of the attack on the statue prompted the US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, a Baptist minister, to say on X that "swift, severe, & public consequences are needed".

Right-wing US commentators were quick to denounce the picture of the Israeli soldier and the statue of Jesus. "Horrific," wrote Matt Gaetz, a former adviser to President Donald Trump and former congressman, as he reposted the photo.

Former US congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene also shared the picture and wrote: "'Our greatest ally' that takes billions of our tax dollars and weapons every year."

Polls indicate there has been a recent drop in support for Israel in the US, its most important ally.

A recent survey by the Pew Research Center, a US-based think tank, suggested 60% of US adults had an unfavourable view of Israel, up from 53% last year.

Last month, there was an international outcry after Israeli police prevented the top Roman Catholic leader in Jerusalem from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre for a private Mass on Palm Sunday. Israeli police said this was out of safety concerns during the Iran war.

Huckabee called that episode an "unfortunate overreach already having major repercussions around the world". With Israeli restrictions allowing religious gatherings of up to 50 people at the time, he said the decision to deny the Church leaders entry was "difficult to understand or justify".

A 2025 report by the Rossing Center, a Jerusalem-based organisation which aims to foster better inter-faith relations in the Holy Land, describes a "recent surge in overt animosity towards Christianity", putting this down to "a continued deepening of polarisation and ultra-nationalist political trends".

Benjamin Netanyahu's post about the Jesus statue was written in English. It said that "the Christian population in Israel thrives unlike elsewhere in the Middle East".

He went on to say: "Israel is the only country in the region that the Christian population and standard of living is growing. Israel is the only place in the Middle East that adheres to freedom of worship for all."

Hezbollah began firing rockets at Israel in support of Iran two days after Israel and the US launched a war on Tehran at the end of February.

Israel began a military campaign on 2 March in which more than a million Lebanese have been displaced and more than 2,290 people have been killed, including 177 children and 100 healthcare workers, Lebanese authorities say. Thirteen Israeli soldiers and two civilians have been killed by Hezbollah attacks in the same period, Israeli officials say.

I do not see the reason for the outrage; per Jewish religious doctrine, the Christians are Goyim, created to serve the Jewish people's needs, and in turn, the Christians consider the Jewish people "chosen ones". A relationship that has been given "permanent validity" by the Christian Churches, thus accepting the position of both societies.

Before the Christian's got entangled in all this theological BS, they should've hammered out these issues, and the public hanging of Jesus, who the Jewish folklore believes is in hell, burning in boiling excrement.

As it stands, the Christian world should just shut up and accept this act as legitimate based on the hierarchy of their relationship.

 

[Shags101]

Severe case of TDS by this guy and those that agree with this clickbait post.

Kind of judgmental for a guy who believes America has alien tech that controls the world just going by your conspiracy theory name @SolarWarden

 

[Immortals]

 

[Persian Gulf]

in reality:

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

in reality:

Many of those tankers, while listed as part of illicit Iran trade, are not officially on the OFAC sanctioned listed. Oil tanker trackers make note of this.

Thus the U.S. is lying when they say it’s a blanket ban on any ships entering or leaving Iranian ports.

This give and take is part of the negotiation process. They could close this gap if they wanted to, but for now have not.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Lulldapull]

Lot of people will disagree but believe me, russia is the Team B of israel. Bolsheviks VS zionist ended in zionist winning and now most oligarchs even putins teachers are all zion supporters. And they simply hate orthodox christians which are masses in russia,eastern europe and ukraine , so whole war there is to kill orthodox man as much as possible and leave women to be sold on epstein islands.. you may deny but i have put some time in these thing

This communist Marxist dogma and movement was all Jewish activism from the late 1800’s until the victory of the Bolsheviks in Moscow. Continued on in Eastern Europe and even infected China and the far east. Karl Marx himself was a German Jew, widely regarded as the father of communist ideology.

I’m not so sure now that other than migrant stock of Russian Jews in Israel……..what else is the bon homie between Russia and the Israelis or the zio oligarchs.

It’s all conjecture and speculation.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If true, I'm not surprised.

 

[Magi]

A leverage that is worth $100 billion? And cannot even be used in peace?

It must be used in peace. Anyone acting belligerently against Iran (including sanctions) is denied entry. Suddenly everyone will kiss ass for access. Tolls to pay for reconstruction.

In all likelihood this is just wishful thinking, and the Zarif fraction will hand everything over (بده بره) and sign another shameful JCPOA 2.0 on steroids. Setting Iran on the path of total destruction.

Watch the hardline camp allow all this to happen then bring back regressive hijab laws and alienate the impoverished populace even further. We saw how that turned out.

 

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How can a deal get done with this on the other side.

Good luck to Iran, its probably wiser to make the bomb.

 

[Flotilla]

I do not see the reason for the outrage; per Jewish religious doctrine, the Christians are Goyim, created to serve the Jewish people's needs, and in turn, the Christians consider the Jewish people "chosen ones". A relationship that has been given "permanent validity" by the Christian Churches, thus accepting the position of both societies.

Before the Christian's got entangled in all this theological BS, they should've hammered out these issues, and the public hanging of Jesus, who the Jewish folklore believes is in hell, burning in boiling excrement.

As it stands, the Christian world should just shut up and accept this act as legitimate based on the hierarchy of their relationship.

Again. This is why Tsun Tzu said "war are lost in temples". It is not the first time they dissecrate christian places or artifacts.

Instead of theorizing about the legitimacy of this nasty behaviour, you should be happy as Israel is more isolated than ever, just a bastard or fascist can still support such country. The country is melting from inside. Like boiling a frog.