Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

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[SolarWarden]

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Bruh..... Threatening to cut off internet is diabolical and should be taken as being threaten with WMD. This would be like the worst human rights violation in the history of da world if internet is cut off. Death would be considered merciful compared to no internet.

 

[Hayabusa]

Just to summarize fro you .
Their Air force = nowhere to be seen. ( Thats what they plan in 45 years)
Navy = turns into brown water navy . Cant move further in Arabian Sea .
Army : only time will tell their position .
Air defence : score a dozen Ariel targets, most of them are drone.
Missiles : the only force that are hitting back . Highly dependent on logistics and supplies from other countries to maintain the stockpile.

Yes we all know this information.

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This war will finish either with a deal or destruction of iran .

The war has a higher rate of finishing with destruction of world economy than destruction of Iran's infrastructure. Not just a deal.

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And no iran dont have time . If the closure of hormuz stays and Ariel bombing starts on civilian targets then the famine and economic collapse will arrive and you will see the ugly face of war .

The war is already ugly. Iran not only has time, but leverage. This time, I agree with their stance. No more ceasefire. War ends in permanent peace, or continue fighting. No other way to ensure Iran's security.

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Even the war america lost (Veitnam war) cost Veitnam approx 4 million deaths.
. So gain your time and rebuild your strength.

Which is why US will not want to be sucked into another Vietnam war. USA have a lower threshold for losses despite the might military strength you just mentioned.

 

[Hayabusa]

100%. Factories, universities, hospitals, every infrastructure can be destroyed. Plus 100s of thousands of iranian civilian citizens lives.

Theoretically yes. Practically no. There is an exponential limit to the amount of weapons produced and usage.

If Escalation happens then Iran will lose exponentially. US mainland is safe, not a single US citizen is killed. Not a single US city is bombed. Not a single hospital or production capability is damaged. US is exporting record number of oil and its trade is going on as usual. While Iran's exports are at stand still due to US blockade.

Iran's objective to win is simple. The government has to survive.

When analysts used to say that Iran will win this war, they were right and they meant that Iran will win by denying US its objectives of war which were doing a regime change and destroying Iran's missile/drone capability. They never meant that Iran will damage US equally or more or win a war at tactical / technological level.

Yes. I agree with this. Iran doesn't have to strike blow for blow. It just has to ensure.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Bruh..... Threatening to cut off internet is diabolical and should be taken as being threaten with WMD. This would be like the worst human rights violation in the history of da world if internet is cut off. Death would be considered merciful compared to no internet.

Crying plea of a porn addict.

 

[Immortals]

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[Mujhe-Kyun-Tora]

Yes we all know this information.


The war has a higher rate of finishing with destruction of world economy than destruction of Iran's infrastructure. Not just a deal.



The war is already ugly. Iran not only has time, but leverage. This time, I agree with their stance. No more ceasefire. War ends in permanent peace, or continue fighting. No other way to ensure Iran's security.

Which is why US will not want to be sucked into another Vietnam war. USA have a lower threshold for losses despite the might military strength you just mentioned.

One could only laugh . They gt sucked in afghan war and iraq war simultaneously .

 

[brazensword]

By the way we are talking about the same regime who's proxy fired missiles towards Macca (that too multiple times) .

I mean given that logic you should support Israel. Which you are? Good hai.

 

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A complete ceasefire only makes sense if it is not violated by the maritime blockade and the hostage-taking of the world’s economy, and if the Zionist warmongering across all fronts is halted; reopening the Strait of Hormuz is impossible with such a flagrant breach of the ceasefire.

They did not achieve their goals through military aggression, nor will they through bullying. The only way forward is to recognize the rights of the Iranian nation.

 

[Master Chief]

2nd one left due to "toilet issues"

This is ridiculous.

USS Gerald Ford is already fully repaired in Croatia and has returned to service near The Gulf.

As I said, IF USA wanted, they could attack now. So waiting for the 3rd group is not necessary. The truth is they are not planning to resume the war presently - for this there are multiple plausible reasons as to why.

 

[Bahrami]

This is ridiculous.

USS Gerald Ford is already fully repaired in Croatia and has returned to service near The Gulf.

As I said, IF USA wanted, they could attack now. So waiting for the 3rd group is not necessary. The truth is they are not planning to resume the war presently - for this there are multiple plausible reasons as to why.

Rationality and plausibility died a long time ago brother. The only logic you can apply all the time is: Does it benefit Israel?

And yes, Americans, Arabs and Iranians fighting each other does benefit Israel.

 

[lightning f57]

EU is talking about targeted sanctions on those involved in closing SOH.

Iran should be clear and unequivocal, any country sanctioning Iran will have to pay a toll to cross the SOH either way.

 

[KingQamaR]

Do you understand how prolonged closure of the Strait affects the global economy, and that the US is not immune from this impact? Who will buy American products across the world when ordinary citizens are struggling to afford butter or eggs or tomatoes? Better yet, how will Trump's decision-making be affected once his base begin losing jobs or they can't afford to take out mortgages?

Iran never tried to take on the Americans toe-to-toe using conventional military capability because that's impossible. It's fighting an asymmetric war where the economic aspect is primary.

You think US blockade stopping Irans export of oil won’t do much harm to Iran’s economy? Think about what you’re saying for a minute.

 

[Professor Jiang]

You think US blockade stopping Irans export of oil won’t do much harm to Iran’s economy? Think about what you’re saying for a minute.

I didn't say it won't hurt Iran. But it's one of those 'if I'm going down, you're all going down with me' type deals. And bear in mind that Iran has already been under the world's worst sanctions regime, and knows what it is like to suffer economically. Can the same be said for the average American or West European?