Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Hayabusa said:
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Credit where credit is due. Iranian airforce did play it's role.
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They should pay that pilot, or those pilots, their weights in gold. It takes a lot of balls to fly a 50-year old jet when you have lost air superiority.

It shows with proper investment, the IRIAF could've been useful against even the United States. It completely rejects the theory of those who said it would've been a total waste of money.
 
Ukraine has repeatedly launched missiles from outdated MiGs and F-16s to strike Russian forces. It is now common knowledge that in the Gulf War, Hussein's excessive fear of the US military and his subsequent withdrawal of his air force ultimately benefited the US. This is because air superiority does not last 24 hours and there will always be vulnerabilities. If the IRIAF had deployed a large number of attack aircraft and low cost ALBM and ALCM, the course of the war would have been different. Too many people forget that the primary purpose of fighter jets is ground attack, not air superiority.
 
SecularNationalist said:
I still have a little soft corner for Vance as he is against that war. Trump should have been killed though. And the other day Nathanyahu has survived the cancer. Damn why is God so tough on good people while giving life chances to scumbags of the earth.
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Lol wait once he comes to power bro…. Trump’s was elected for ending wars… 🙂🙂🙂
 
ShapurII said:
They should pay that pilot, or those pilots, their weights in gold. It takes a lot of balls to fly a 50-year old jet when you have lost air superiority.

It shows with proper investment, the IRIAF could've been useful against even the United States. It completely rejects the theory of those who said it would've been a total waste of money.
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Iran produced some Ace pilots in Shah,s era. But mind doesn't accept the non sense and foolishness of Irani defense experts who are not building a airforce and nuclear weapons despite having the means and resources to do so. Other day I heard some senior Irani official telling that nukes are Haram lol.
You must have some deadly deterrence or foreign powers will attacking you on will causing mass destruction on ground. Atleast think about your innocent civilians and children who died in thousands.
 
unconventional said:
It’s very interesting: multiple assassination attempts against Trump over the years in the US; despite the US being geographically separated (by the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans) from most of the world.

However Israel, which is located in a tough neighborhood, which bombs its neighboring countries/regions on an existential level; yet have never heard of any assassination attempts against Netanyahu over decades. I find this peculiar, odd.
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extreme right wing who didnt want 2 state solution kiled Rabin 1995. Bastard Bi is extremist himself
 
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⭕️ Iranian F-5 jet breached US air defenses in first such strike since Korean War, as wider attacks caused major damage to US bases

A 25 April report by NBC News reveals that an Iranian F-5 fighter jet successfully carried out a bombing run on Camp Buehring in Kuwait early on in the US–Israeli war on Iran, penetrating layered US air defenses that included Patriot missile systems, short-range interceptors, radar coverage, and regional surveillance networks.

The strike is considered exceptionally rare, marking what analysts say is the first time since the Korean War that an "enemy fixed-wing aircraft" has successfully hit a major US military base, a benchmark often traced back to a North Korean low-altitude night raid on 15 April, 1953, that killed two US soldiers on Cho-do Island. For more than 70 years following that incident, the US maintained near-total air superiority over its military bases.

The incident also undercuts repeated claims that Iran’s air force had been fully neutralized at the outset of the war, demonstrating that even aging aircraft platforms retained operational capability. US officials cited in the reporting said the F-5 approached at low altitude and dropped unguided munitions, exploiting gaps in detection systems designed primarily to counter missiles and higher-altitude threats. The success of the strike, regardless of the aircraft’s fate, has been described as strategically significant in both operational and symbolic terms.

The HESA Kowsar is the aircraft most likely utilized in the operation; Iran’s domestically produced iteration of the American Northrop F-5 Tiger II. Categorized as a third-generation fighter jet, it is based on an airframe design that originated in the late 1950's and entered heavy production throughout the 1960's. Iran successfully reverse-engineered this platform from the fleet of F-5s provided by the United States during the 1970's, prior to the Iranian Revolution. While the Kowsar maintains the traditional single-tail profile of its predecessor, it is frequently distinguished from the Saeqeh, a separate Iranian derivative notable for its modified twin vertical tail configuration.

Beyond the F-5 strike, the report points to a far broader scale of damage across US military installations in the Gulf. Iranian retaliatory attacks hit dozens of targets across multiple countries, damaging warehouses, aircraft hangars, command headquarters, satellite communications systems, runways, advanced radar infrastructure, and multiple aircraft, with repair costs expected to reach into the billions. Some assessments suggest over 100 targets across several bases were struck, raising questions about the full extent of damage not publicly disclosed.

Separate drone strikes further exposed vulnerabilities in US defenses, including a March 1 attack on a tactical operations center near Kuwait’s Port of Shuaiba that killed six US service members and wounded more than 60. Analysts say the combination of drone saturation tactics and limited manned aircraft operations forced US defenses to stretch across multiple threat layers, highlighting weaknesses in base protection, logistics resilience, and the survivability of forward-deployed forces under sustained, multi-vector attacks.

(NBC, Defence Security Asia)



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SecularNationalist said:
@gambit bro weeks ago you took a jibe at Iranian airforce lol and you almost convinced me.
Now I hope this news won't shoot up your blood pressure.
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He will put up a ridiculous theory to convince you that it was pure luck instead of Iranian planning and tactics that gave them this tactical victory.

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ShapurII said:
They should pay that pilot, or those pilots, their weights in gold. It takes a lot of balls to fly a 50-year old jet when you have lost air superiority.

It shows with proper investment, the IRIAF could've been useful against even the United States. It completely rejects the theory of those who said it would've been a total waste of money.
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I do agree airforce is important. Hopefully this war will spark some new planning for their airforce.

But the difficulty in procuring aircrafts has been the main hurdle due to the sanctions will always be there.

I am confident IRGC has planned this war to the best of their abilities.
 
USS Ford will come back home in the ending of May.

So Israel has a window opportunity of one month to attack taking advantage of three carriers in middle east.
 
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