Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Militarily and politically it makes sense for Iran to attack Arabs instead of Israel or Americans .

Iran lacks the sophistication and airforce to hit pin point targets … HOWEvER …. Knowing their limitations and understanding their situation they see Israel in a broader sense as a part of a coalition of USA/ ARAb and Israel axis of evil …..

Hitting one is hitting all …. When UAE screams their screams are heard in TelAviv and Washington .


They cannot change dynamics 2000 miles away in Israel but defanging Behrain / Kuwait and UAE and making them realize how big of a liability these American bases are for them is a great achievement in itself .

Oman and Qatar not letting Americans use their bases is unheard of ….

So yes Iran may not have changed reality on the ground in Israel and hurt Israel too much (only 5000 houses demaged/ destroyed ) but these Arabs are worst enemy and backstabbers than Israel and hurting them means hurting goals of USA and Israel .

Never in the history American bases were ever eclvacuated and soldiers sent to the hotels to live …. Abandoned American bases …just think about it .

You need to push enemy away from your borders and it provides breathing space … Israel can be dealt long term ….


Also Arabs watched in horror as trillions of worth of weapons couldn’t do shit to defend them and Americans removed their batteries to protect Israel leaving Arabs exposed …

Wake up call for many …. Unless these guys are not asleep but dead

You are failing to see the bigger picture. Iran has failed to establish detererence.

As long as Iran fails to establish deterrence, nothing stops the US from launching new wars at their time of choosing. This all started when Iran failed to establish deterrence after Trump assassinated Gen. Soleimani.

Trump can simply keep Iran's economy in this situation for years, while having new attempts at Iran every once in a while until Iran implodes.

Their blockade is already bringing Iran's economy to its knees by causing massive inflation and severe devaluation of the Iranian currency in just 60 days.

 

[hyperman]

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[Watandar]

You are failing to see the bigger picture. Iran has failed to establish detererence.

As long as Iran fails to establish deterrence, nothing stops from the US from launching new wars at their time of choosing. This all started when Iran failed to establish deterrence after Trump assassinated Gen. Soleimani.

Trump can simply keep Iran's economy in this situation for years, while having new attempts at Iran every once in a while until Iran implodes.

Their blockade is already bringing Iran's economy to its knees by causing massive inflation and severe devaluation of the Iranian currency in just 60 days.

I think we just observed Iran re-establish its deterrence in the last 50 days. The latest "Project Freedom" fiasco, abandoned after two days is even more proof of this. I think if Iran hangs on a few more weeks, Trump will drop his idiotic blockade and ensure a total Iranian victory in this war.

There will be no more American wars on Iran after this , long or short ones, I assure you.

 

[ShapurII]

I think we just observed Iran re-establish its deterrence in the last 50 days. The latest "Project Freedom" fiasco, abandoned after two days is even more proof of this. I think if Iran hangs on a few more weeks, Trump will drop his idiotic blockade and ensure a total Iranian victory in this war.

I don't know. If your enemy threatens you with destroying your energy infrastructure on a weekly basis, has already imposed a naval blockade on your country and doesn't want to lift it even temporarily for you to save face and sign a bad deal, it seems to me that you haven't established deterrence.

If anything, you have lost your remaining deterrence as well.

There is no total Iranian victory in this war. Iran lost her hard-earned victory the moment it accepted an early ceasefire and decided to negotiate with the Americans. You do not negotiate with the people who have proven twice in the last 10 months that they do not intend to negotiate with you and want to subdue you.

The Americans asked for a 45-day ceasefire. Remember? Iran accepted a 2-week ceasefire only to save face. Guess what? The Americans are going to get their 45-day ceasefire anyway, while passively hurting our country. Another defeat for us, another victory for the Americans.

 

[MH.Yang]

Trump is about to visit Beijing.

He is unlikely to sign the ceasefire agreement before the end of the visit, as it is a rare bargaining chip in Trump's hands. Trump needs enough chips to exchange for China's lifting of the ban on military rare earths.

After Trump's visit to Beijing, the ceasefire agreement is likely to be officially signed.

As for Netanyahu, you are overthinking it. That clown has no power to stop the ceasefire. His ultimate fate is prison.

 

[313Ghazi]

One thing - I still don't understand why every time Pakistan request to prevent this war?!

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Almost five weeks now after every request lol

Thoughts and prayers for all the Indians dying a thousand deaths right now.

 

[Watandar]

I don't know. If your enemy threatens you with destroying your energy infrastructure on a weekly basis, has already imposed a naval blockade on your country and doesn't want to lift it even temporarily for you to save face and sign a bad deal, it seems to me that you haven't established deterrence.

If anything, you have lost your remaining deterrence as well.

There is no total Iranian victory in this war. Iran lost her hard-earned victory the moment it accepted an early ceasefire and decided to negotiate with the Americans. You do not negotiate with people who have proven twice in the last 10 months that they do not intend to negotiate with you and want to subdue you.

The Americans asked for a 45-day ceasefire. Remember? Iran accepted a 2-week ceasefire only to save face. Guess what? The Americans are going to get their 45-day ceasefire anyway, while passively hurting our country. Another defeat for us, another victory for the Americans.

The US and Israel failed to achieve any of their stated objectives and the US is looking for a face saving exit. Trump may bark loudly every day, that's all he knows, but he has not attacked again. I think Iran is close to victory and will be allowed to sell its oil to the world very soon.

 

[ShapurII]

The US and Israel failed to achieve any of their stated objectives and the US is looking for a face saving exit. Trump may bluster loudly every day, that's all he knows to do, he has not attacked again. I think Iran is close to victory and will be allowed to sell its oil to the world very soon.

They have failed to achieve their stated objectives YET.
If Iran signs a nuclear deal with Trump, then that will change the situation very quickly.

Any deal with the US that includes our nuclear material is a surrender in my opinion.

 

[RocketLaw]

UAE is going to be very very UPSET at USA ? Negative tweets coming from Emirates soon?

 

[MH.Yang]

Source: Trust me, bro.

The impact of the blockade is already there and it has caused severe currency devaluation and a new wave of inflation. Anybody who claims otherwise is ignorant of basic economic facts.

If inflation alone could defeat Iran, then Iran has no right to continue its civilization.

Inflation is just temporary; you should look at the inflation Russia faced at the beginning of the war in Ukraine.

 

[Abdul q]

UAE is going to be very very UPSET at USA ? Negative tweets coming from Emirates soon?

They’re just arab versions of pajeetss

 

[ShapurII]

If inflation alone could defeat Iran, then Iran has no right to continue its civilization.

Not every civilization yearns for famines and tens of millions of deaths like the great Chinese civilization.

 

[Watandar]

They have failed to achieve their stated objectives YET.
If Iran signs a nuclear deal with Trump, then that will change the situation very quickly.

Any deal with the US that includes our nuclear material is a surrender in my opinion.

I respect your viewpoints.

 

[MH.Yang]

They have failed to achieve their stated objectives YET.
If Iran signs a nuclear deal with Trump, then that will change the situation very quickly.

Any deal with the US that includes our nuclear material is a surrender in my opinion.

Trump could not accept any deal worse than the Obama deal.

 

[HAIDER]

They’re just arab versions of pajeetss

Saudi Arabia is extremely scared of UAE now. Whenever they get stable, they will strike Saudi Arabia Royals ...there expansion ambition is joint venture with Israel.