Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Arash said:
Excuse me gentlemen
I wasn't following
Did iran get attacked this week ?
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The United States and possibly the Emirates attacked Bandar Abbas, the Qeshm Island and another place that I don't remember its name yesterday.
 
It is pretty interesting that Trump is still saying the ceasefire has not broken. If the Israelis needed to engineer something like Vietnam's Tolkien false flag they would have done so yesterday or may do so very soon.
I don't see an open war starting again anytime soon but Netanyahu will keep trying.
 
Immortals said:
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Sounds like US + UAE attacked Iran.

UAE didn’t have the balls to attack Iran without its master alongside them.
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Iran should eventually make an example of the UAE so that it becomes clear to every u.s. stooge in the Gulf that no one is allowed to mess with us...
 
Meengla said:
It is pretty interesting that Trump is still saying the ceasefire has not broken. If the Israelis needed to engineer something like Vietnam's Tolkien false flag they would have done so yesterday or may do so very soon.
I don't see an open war starting again anytime soon but Netanyahu will keep trying.
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A large scale war is not on the cards nor politically, economically or militarily feasible and that is why he wants to set a new normal. Choke Iran for internal chaos, intermittent bombings under a threshold that do not transcend into a precipitous conflict. Zion has learned a thing or two as well... that it is a military midget without US even WITH all of US and the collective military umbrella, support, supply and technology.
It is up to Iran now to find an out... because the US doesn't care if the world starves or collapses economically as long as the US itself is not directly impacted... the price US is willing to pay the wellbeing of the rest of the world. That is the zero sum mindset where US would want to rule the ruins but not allow prosperity skipping it...
The euroasian overland bilateral or multilateral trade will totally omit any western or collective input after centuries of sabotage and subterfuge.
 
Yasser76 said:
You gotta ask yourself what kind of mess you are in when 80 odd F-16E/Fs are useless and you are desperate enough to ask the Egyptians for help....
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Can't protect an expensive glass house throwing stones at others with expensive toys... they got their comeuppance... all they have to do is poke Iran and see if Egyptian Rafales are any good.
 
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Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
Can't protect an expensive glass house throwing stones at other with expensive toys... they got their comeuppance... all they have to do is poke Iran and see if Egyptian Rafales are any good.
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Bizarre, dont even have Meteor, anyway, would be great to see Iran take a few down, another nail in the Rafale coffin....
 
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The U.S. has now attacked new Iranian VLCC oil tankers

IRGC Navy gave a weak response and it led to this
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This is now a full fledged economic war.... and as I said previously the whole genesis of western and Iranian conflict is set in extraction of resources... the coup... counter coup... Shah... no shah... has been an exercise in depriving Iranians of their own resources and making a buck while at it...

Right now the only thing US has at its disposal with impunity is, it's reach! The Navy that ran a protection racket now serves as pirates of Caribbean. And unfortunately here no one offers a credible alternative to Iran including China, except of overland trade bypassing the sea lanes.
 
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The U.S. has now attacked new Iranian VLCC oil tankers

IRGC Navy gave a weak response and it led to this
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Hormuz, which got nationalized by Iran, will stay closed. These risky operations by US Navy will only increase the chance for Iran to hit them while having no influence on Hormuz traffic. There will be no strategic gain for US government.
 
Yasser76 said:
Bizarre, dont even have Meteor, anyway, would be great to see Iran take a few down, another nail in the Rafale coffin....
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There isn't going to be any A2A engagement anyways. These can serve for limited maritime and standoff aggression.
However price will be paid by the glass house... let sand to reclaim everything.
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
A large scale war is not on the cards nor politically, economically or militarily feasible and that is why he wants to set a new normal. Choke Iran for internal chaos, intermittent bombings under a threshold that do not transcend into a precipitous conflict. Zion has learned a thing or two as well... that it is a military midget without US even WITH all of US and the collective military umbrella, support, supply and technology.
It is up to Iran now to find an out... because the US doesn't care if the world starves or collapses economically as long as the US itself is not directly impacted... the price US is willing to pay the wellbeing of the rest of the world. That is the zero sum mindset where US would want to rule the ruins but not allow prosperity skipping it...
The euroasian overland bilateral or multilateral trade will totally omit any western or collective input after centuries of sabotage and subterfuge.
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I think it would be wrong to assume that the American naval assets could remain indefinitely and as far as the land based attacks on Iran, only the UAE (and perhaps Bahrain/Kuwait) remain the options. Add to that, multiple sources are saying Iran can sustain the Blockade for months. Combined with the news about Iran still retaining a significant chunk of its missiles and drones, I don't see how Iran will capitulate due to the Blockade.

Also, you are probably wrong that the effects of this war are not reaching America. Not only there is a political cost to Trump--and he should fear an impeachment post Midterms elections--Americans are indeed feeling some pain due to this war.

PS. When you use 'Eurasian' then don't forget Europe/West is part of Eurasia and they are increasingly distancing themselves from the Zionist led American policies in the Middle East.
 
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