Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

Iran war is a world issue, it's not a regional issue.

Right. Even Robert Kagan, the super war hawk in America, says that.
The most consequential conflict since World War II.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Egypt pressing Al-Azhar 'to back UAE' against Iran, sources say

Egypt’s presidency has pressed Al-Azhar, the leading authority in Sunni Islam, to publicly back the United Arab Emirates and other Gulf states in their confrontation with Iran, security sources and sources close to the institution’s grand imam said.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Egypt pressing Al-Azhar 'to back UAE' against Iran, sources say

Egypt’s presidency has pressed Al-Azhar, the leading authority in Sunni Islam, to publicly back the United Arab Emirates and other Gulf states in their confrontation with Iran, security sources and sources close to the institution’s grand imam said.

Very very very very very disappointed in Egypt trying to make this a Shia-Sunni thing, when it is not the case.

 

[Lulldapull]

Maybe they got Xi as well, maybe he's in Epstein files...who knows...

Saad yaar Iran has totally won this so easily and all of us are sharminda!

Basically this is the reality.

There is nothing anyone can do anything else about it.

Believe me…….

Laanat ho hum per cuz we couldn’t do it.

 

[Fatman17]

US and Israel planned to install Ahmadinejad as Iranian leader, NYT says

The 'audacious plan' quickly unravelled and Ahmadinejad's whereabouts are unknown, US officials told the newspaper

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[lightning f57]

Very very very very very disappointed in Egypt trying to make this a Shia-Sunni thing, when it is not the case.

I think Saudi pressure might stop this.

 

[Lulldapull]

Trump's National Intelligence Team is FALLING APART Over Iran War

Two of Tulsi Gabbard's closest allies inside the intelligence community are now gone, and Iran is the reason sources are pointing to in both cases.

Joe Kent, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, resigned in March saying Iran posed "NO IMMINENT THREAT" and the war was started under Israeli pressure.

Amaryllis Fox Kennedy, Deputy Director of National Intelligence and a former CIA officer who publicly opposed war with Iran before taking office, is leaving her two posts this week with sources citing her disagreement with Trump's military involvement as a factor.

Gabbard herself has kept a low profile since the war began, and her office has been cut out of the major national security decisions driving it.

The people Trump hired to keep America out of forever wars are the ones walking out the door.

It’s just amazing that it only took Iran 40 days to fukking demolish the US’s strategic position in the entire ME region.

This is just ridiculous gents.

 

[Watandar]

Very very very very very disappointed in Egypt trying to make this a Shia-Sunni thing, when it is not the case.

Egypt is as compromised as Pakistan because of its weak economy and autocracy. Egypt also regularly depends on the GCC for bailouts and investments. This means upon GCC demand, it has to deploy forces and leverage its assets for the service of the Emirs, princes and kings. One of those Egyptian assets is Al-Azhar. Now Pakistan doesn't have the equivalent of Al-Azhar for the Arabs, but its madrassahs were leveraged to brainwash and send the children of the poor to fight in West/GCC wars abroad.

If these two countries were not so politically backward and financially weak, they could chart an independent foreign policy and not debase themselves so regularly.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Egypt is as compromised as Pakistan because of its weak economy and autocracy. Egypt also regularly depends on the GCC for bailouts and investments. This means upon GCC demand, it has to deploy forces and leverage its assets for the service of the Emirs, princes and kings. One of those Egyptian assets is Al-Azhar. Now Pakistan doesn't have the equivalent of Al-Azhar for the Arabs, but its madrassahs were leveraged to brainwash and send the children of the poor to fight in West/GCC wars abroad.

If these two countries were not so politically backward and financially weak, they could chart an independent foreign policy and not debase themselves so regularly.

Are you an Afghan, Hazara? You keep pooping on Pakistan nonsense along with that Nigerian @925boy. What's your problem? Pakistan is nothing like Egypt. Egypt just sent troops and jets to UAE - while Pakistan gave the loan back to UAE when they came calling/demanding that Pakistan join the anti-Iran alliance. You and that Nigerian need to shut your traps considering how f**ken wrong you have gotten about Pakistan each time. I don't like the Pakistan military establishment but they at least are competent and follow a path that charts it own way unlike the Egyptians who have completely sold out.

 

[tsunset]

The whole "IrAn iMproVeD its aD" and "gUlF toLd uS nOt tO aTtAcK" and ceasefire things are excuses and coverups for TACO

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Ultimately, ordinary Americans like you and I are also among the beneficiaries of the hitherto prevailing American global order! So we better be aware of some 'unintended consequences'.

Neoliberalism!

It is as much an enemy of Americans as the rest of the world. It kills local economy for it's extraction value and not as a staple of human life and culture. Things are for consumption... but here the consumption and the consumer is securitized!
Take the most obvious examples of today's day and age... Walmart and Uber. By having Walmarts as focal points of all consumption... every local store shutters. People who were able to make a livelihood and contribute within their local economy now feed wall street for their consumption and jobs they get in return are minimum wage for maximum extraction for the sharks. Uber the other one... who now controls both the rider and driver... can single handedly not only pick and choose what they want to charge the rider and pay the driver but control access!!! Something that had a whole segment of local economy... fleet management, local insurer, dispatch, mechanics, drivers, lease of local real estate and money that circulated in local economy now is siphoned off to San Francisco and tech bros! Where regular day to day work is further off shored to Phillipines or India... and local sweatshop labor walks on pins and needles... no one is better off because of it! Everyone suffers!
All economy is local and once these bandits get their paper and cloud capital smashed the local economy will find its feet... it has too... though painful it may be...

This is important before everyone walks into a dystopia remotely access controlled by tech bros for maximum extraction and nothing else.

There are deeper currents in motion in these wars then meets the eye. Iran is taking on the oligarchy without even knowing what's at stake! However wall street knows exactly what they're doing.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Neoliberalism!

It is as much an enemy of Americans as the rest of the world. It kills local economy for it's extraction value and not as a staple of human life and culture. Things are for consumption... but here the consumption and the consumer is securitized!
Take the most obvious examples of today's day and age... Walmart and Uber. By having Walmarts as focal points of all consumption... every local store shutters. People who were able to make a livelihood and contribute within their local economy now feed wall street for their consumption and jobs they get in return are minimum wage for maximum extraction for the sharks. Uber the other one... who now controls both the rider and driver... can single handedly not only pick and choose what they want to charge the rider and pay the driver but control access!!! Something that had a whole segment of local economy... fleet management, local insurer, dispatch, mechanics, drivers, lease of local real estate and money that circulated in local economy now is siphoned off to San Francisco and tech bros! Where regular day to day work is further off shored to Phillipines or India... and local sweatshop labor walks on pins and needles... no one is better off because of it! Everyone suffers!
All economy is local and once these bandits get their paper and cloud capital smashed the local economy will find its feet... it has too... though painful it may be...

This is important before everyone walks into a dystopia remotely access controlled by tech bros for maximum extraction and nothing else.

There are deeper currents in motion in these wars then meets the eye. Iran is taking on the oligarchy without even knowing what's at stake! However wall street knows exactly what they're doing.

100%. 100%. 100%.

 

[SaadH]

Are you an Afghan, Hazara? You keep pooping on Pakistan nonsense along with that Nigerian @925boy. What's your problem? Pakistan is nothing like Egypt. Egypt just sent troops and jets to UAE - while Pakistan gave the loan back to UAE when they came calling/demanding that Pakistan join the anti-Iran alliance. You and that Nigerian need to shut your traps considering how f**ken wrong you have gotten about Pakistan each time. I don't like the Pakistan military establishment but they at least are competent and follow a path that charts it own way unlike the Egyptians who have completely sold out.

Pakistan has done worse bomb it's own people for decades...

 

[tsunset]

I'm wondering about the state of air defenses inside the US

Will they be able to completely stop a supposed FPV attack or not considering that they moved a lot of things for the sole purpose of defending Israel at all costs

 

[Watandar]

Are you an Afghan, Hazara? You keep pooping on Pakistan nonsense along with that Nigerian @925boy. What's your problem? Pakistan is nothing like Egypt. Egypt just sent troops and jets to UAE - while Pakistan gave the loan back to UAE when they came calling/demanding that Pakistan join the anti-Iran alliance. You and that Nigerian need to shut your traps considering how f**ken wrong you have gotten about Pakistan each time. I don't like the Pakistan military establishment but they at least are competent and follow a path that charts it own way unlike the Egyptians who have completely sold out.

Pakistan had to get loans from Saudi/Qatar to pay back its loan to the UAE, and then deployed a defensive force to Saudi. So I am not seeing any substantial difference from Egypt which also deployed a defensive force to UAE, a country on which it depends on financially.

Both Egypt and Pakistan are army dictatorships from the 1950s, with huge military business empires. The Egyptian arrangement, where Sadat sold out the Palestinians and gained financial aid and political support for army rule in perpetuity, is something Pakistani jernails have dreamed of for generations.

People are allowed to disagree with your viewpoint. Thanks.

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