Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

To me it seems the US doesn't want to go to war against Iran right now.

So I actually think its an opportunity for Iran to hit Israel if they dont stop their genocide in southern Lebanon.

That is further leverage and pressure on yahu to halt or pull back from Lebanon.

 

[Immortals]

If true, why isn’t Iran taking advantage of this?

@Persian Gulf

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Stop posting Axios and Barak Ravid. Their "reporting" is deliberate misinformation and has zero journalistic value.

Sometimes, Axios gets it right. So does the National Enquirer.

 

[FUB]

Apparently, Trump was furious with Netanyahu, and may or may not have threatened him.

No idea if true, but that's what the rumor mill is saying.

It is all theater. Trump is in big trouble with America first . The US is not a sovereign nation anymore . It is completely occupied. It is just as bad on the left .When you have Jewish mob lady from Vegas buying elections, it is no longer sovereign.
Seven time incumbent lost the election to a no name. Nobody out of nowhere who wouldn’t even do a single debate , or a public townhall. He wouldn’t hold any public speeches.
He openly pushed for the reinstatement of the draft and somehow he was elected .Does it get anymore in your face ?

 

[FUB]

Stop posting Axios and Barak Ravid. Their "reporting" is deliberate misinformation and has zero journalistic value.

He is a former/current member of the 8200 unit of the rapist colony.

 

[Arash]

The lying and coverup under trump is pretty bad but its becoming more apparent.

They are preparing the next strikes... I wonder why iran is still negotiating...

 

[Arash]

Barak Ravid has made a whole career out of these articles telling Americans they don't need to worry about the latest horrifying war because the president is taking care of it. Some Ravid headlines from the Biden administration:

Biden “running out” of patience with Bibi as Gaza war hits 100 days

Scoop: Biden in “frustrating” call told Bibi to solve Palestinian tax revenue issue

Biden’s ultimatum to Bibi: Change Gaza policy or we will

White House temperature is “very high” ahead of Biden-Bibi call

“We won’t support you”: Inside Biden’s ultimatum to Bibi

Israel and U.S. deeply divided in meeting on key Rafah operation issues

Biden and Bibi “red lines” for Rafah put them on a collision course

Biden-Bibi clash escalates as U.S. accused of undermining Israeli government

Biden and Netanyahu hold first call in a month amid public split

Biden breaks with Netanyahu but sticks with Israel

Biden on hot mic: Told Bibi we needed “come to Jesus” meeting on Gaza

Biden, in rare criticism, warns Netanyahu that Israel risks losing global support

Biden, in rare criticism of Bibi, says pause in Gaza fighting should have come sooner

Scoop: Blinken warns Israeli officials global pressure will grow longer war goes on

Israeli minister lambasted at White House about Gaza and war strategy

Scoop: Biden tells Bibi he’s not in it for a year of war in Gaza

Blinken unloads on Bibi: “You need a coherent plan” or face disaster in Gaza

Scoop: White House cancels meeting, scolds Netanyahu in protest over video

Netanyahu irked by “critical” Harris comments

It's true that Axios is just a pile of garbage...

 

[Arash]

FM of France - useless....
FM of Belgium - where the hell is that thing ???
FM of Turkey - better talk directly with Israelis....
FM of Qatar - why not but do they hold any influence ???

 

[FUB]

Hasbara explained

 

[Persian Gulf]

‘Iranians want to be bombed’

Meanwhile, Iranians:

 

[Flotilla]

It is all theater. Trump is in big trouble with America first . The US is not a sovereign nation anymore . It is completely occupied. It is just as bad on the left .When you have Jewish mob lady from Vegas buying elections, it is no longer sovereign.
Seven time incumbent lost the election to a no name. Nobody out of nowhere who wouldn’t even do a single debate , or a public townhall. He wouldn’t hold any public speeches.
He openly pushed for the reinstatement of the draft and somehow he was elected .Does it get anymore in your face ?

I agree completamente with you.
He took a telephone call, he called someone from the press and let him listen the conversation while screaming.

But tomorrow everything will be the same. Israel did respect "0" agreements.

The war in Lebanon will finish just when Hizbollah defeats zionists soldiers.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Since the start of operations of the #PersianGulf_Waterways_Management entity in early May, more than 300 non-Iranian vessels have submitted information to obtain safe passage permits through the #Strait_of_Hormuz, most of which have been oil tankers.

 

[Meengla]

To me it seems the US doesn't want to go to war against Iran right now.
So I actually think its an opportunity for Iran to hit Israel if they dont stop their genocide in southern Lebanon.
That is further leverage and pressure on yahu to halt or pull back from Lebanon.

So Iran threatened to pull out of the negotiations entirely and directly attack Israel unless Israel stops its war on Lebanon and that resulted in Trump calling Netanyahu and yelling at him. It tells me that Trump wants out of this war and needs Netanyahu to cooperate with him but Netanyahu's goals are different from the American goals.

There is indeed a 'day light' between Israel and America and those who think they are one and the same are not reading the evolving relationship correctly. We all know the hold of the Israelis in America and we all know Netanyahu's personal hold on Trump but there is a growing chasm between the two countries and it is worth paying attention to that. Too many here resign to the pre October 2023 era in which the Israeli hold in America is unshakable. I don't think that's true any more.

What I understand is that Trump wants out and he is trying to curtail Netanyahu's ambitions in southern Lebanon at least enough to make a deal. And from what I have seen, Hezbollah's immediate goal is to stop the attacks in Lebanon and then to work toward kicking out the Israelis. Hezbollah is pragmatic. It needs to regroup. Israelis don't want to stop attacking Hezbollah. But Trump can prevail over Netanyahu.

 

[hussain0216]

So Iran threatened to pull out of the negotiations entirely and directly attack Israel unless Israel stops its war on Lebanon and that resulted in Trump calling Netanyahu and yelling at him. It tells me that Trump wants out of this war and needs Netanyahu to cooperate with him but Netanyahu's goals are different from the American goals.

There is indeed a 'day light' between Israel and America and those who think they are one and the same are not reading the evolving relationship correctly. We all know the hold of the Israelis in America and we all know Netanyahu's personal hold on Trump but there is a growing chasm between the two countries and it is worth paying attention to that. Too many here resign to the pre October 2023 era in which the Israeli hold in America is unshakable. I don't think that's true any more.

What I understand is that Trump wants out and he is trying to curtail Netanyahu's ambitions in southern Lebanon at least enough to make a deal. And from what I have seen, Hezbollah's immediate goal is to stop the attacks in Lebanon and then to work toward kicking out the Israelis. Hezbollah is pragmatic. It needs to regroup. Israelis don't want to stop attacking Hezbollah. But Trump can prevail over Netanyahu.

Hezbollah have also realized their is more then one way to skin a cat and in the drone age they don't need to put thousands of men on the front line

They can create traps, ambushes, leave booby traps, snipers

Remove thousands of operatives from the direct line of Israeli fire

Use ATGMS and rockets more sparingly and just launch FPV drone after FPV drone


I think the Israeli are truly worried, as they simply don't know how to counter this strategy and at the same time occupy hostile territory


Hezbollah for the next few years should make or obtain thousands and thousands of FPV drones and train multiple operators to fly them and in any conflict attempt to overwhelm Israeli forces and especially hit radars and A.D

 

[Ali_Baba]

Hezbollah have also realized their is more then one way to skin a cat and in the drone age they don't need to put thousands of men on the front line

They can create traps, ambushes, leave booby traps, snipers

Remove thousands of operatives from the direct line of Israeli fire

Use ATGMS and rockets more sparingly and just launch FPV drone after FPV drone


I think the Israeli are truly worried, as they simply don't know how to counter this strategy and at the same time occupy hostile territory


Hezbollah for the next few years should make or obtain thousands and thousands of FPV drones and train multiple operators to fly them and in any conflict attempt to overwhelm Israeli forces and especially hit radars and A.D

FPV's are alot lot lot cheaper than alot of the missiles that they have previously invested their time and money in and they are are a lot more effective from the bang-for-buck ratio given that they can be guided with precision.

Ukraine seems to have developed the munitions that actually take out tanks from FPV's, so I imagine it is only a matter of time before we see similar solutions deployed in South Lebanon as it seems that Tanks are a problem for the initial batch of FPV drones to destroy.

In China, you can now get optical spools with 100km range which is shocking, so once battery technology catches up, the whole concept of "buffer zones" becomes a redundant concept.

( The conquest of South Lebanon has more to do with Greater Israel, than security concerns ).