Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

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[PK781]

Reminder to us all that there is no "deal" to be made since the US is making unilateral demands without offering a single thing in return.

the war is just paused temporarily, after FIFA things are expected to heat again......israel will never let usa to do a deal.

 

[Immortals]

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[Shags101]

Iran’s Ghalibaf says US bases, Israeli assets legitimate targets after Beirut strikes

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www.timesofisrael.com

It’s really starting to look like they’re going to take a break from negotiating with words it’s starting to look like it might go back to war let’s ope they hit first hard and rapidly hopefully trump really decides to stay out of it

 

[PK781]

Multiple times the Arab countries had tried to fight Israel but it was a vain effort because they would be fighting a Superpower. All the GCC countries tried to help the Palestinians in the past but resigned to just stay away from the Israel-Palestine conflict in last few decades. It was a futile cause. So those countries instead built great wealth and prosperity as being part of the Pax Americana. We can't blame them especially if we see what happened to Libya, Iraq and Syria.
But, going forward, major realignment is happening. I believe Netanyahu's very arrogant and stupid decision to attack Qatar was the turning point, just like Modi's stupid war on Pakistan in May 2025 became a turning point for Pakistan. Pakistan is well placed to use its military power to counter Israeli aggression on those Arab countries who'd join a Pakistan alliance. Turkey is likely to be part of that alliance.
You will see this realignment coming up by no later than early 2027.

just imagine a strong muslim alliance..........Pakistan, Iran, Turkiye, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan , Iraq, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Indonesia, Malaysia and all......and our arab bros (Qatar, KSA) with funds can contribute with that, oh man.

 

[PK781]

Speaking of FIFA:

Forcing Team Melli to enter, exit US on match day ‘unbelievable, disastrous: Former player

An Iranian football coach and former international player has condemned the politicization of sport by the US government, citing visa obstacles and logistical problems faced by members of Team Melli.

www.presstv.ir

Iran team is only allowed 24 hr visas and must enter and leave the US the same day!

Sounds like infantino is pimping out his daddy to trump, or trump will kill him too.

I personally feel Iran should boycott the fifa world cup altogether, call the team back and SHIT on US/Canada/Mexico altogether,

and then RAISE the fucking costs for Canada, US, Mexico on their ships/tankers in the Hormuzzz, even blow up a couple!!

 

[Flotilla]

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Forever war

He has no the patience required to do so. It will take billions of dollars and years to soften the power of Irán. He is gambling again. And if Irán Falls the next will be Turkey to reach finally Pakistán. They don't want any powerful muslim country capable of deterring Israel.

 

[Falcon29]

19:51 / June 6
Strategic Assessment: The Dahiyeh attack is a kind of strategic test for Iran. The United States and the Israeli regime have shown in recent weeks that they are not inclined to start a full-scale war in the region, and this presents a historic opportunity for Iran and the Resistance to rearrange the regional order using the military tools at their disposal. A military response to the Dahiyeh attack is not merely Iran's involvement in the Lebanon war, but rather an important step toward securing Iran and part of a larger program to revive deterrence, integrate the Resistance Axis, and raise the costs for the enemy across all fronts. The United States and the Israeli regime are indistinguishable, and the war will encompass all fronts.

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[Persian Gulf]

He has no the patience required to do so. It will take billions of dollars and years to soften the power of Irán. He is gambling again. And if Irán Falls the next will be Turkey to reach finally Pakistán. They don't want any powerful muslim country capable of deterring Israel.

yes, such an objective will take several months if not years.

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lots of good targets here

 

[Flotilla]

yes, such an objective will take several months if not years.

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After World Championships how much missiles could have restocked Irán? 150? 200? More?.
What about Cruise missiles or drones?.
It is US the one that must cover not only Israel, but also GCC countries and even European teathre like Ukraine even if we pay their interceptors... So the numbers are not supporting his narrative.

 

[Ali_Baba]

- The United States is seizing Iranian Bitcoin valued at 1 billion USD

- Ships are being escorted out of the Strait of Hormuz

- The blockade of Iranian ports continues unabated

- The US is persistently launching random attacks on Iran

- In retaliation, Iran is targeting Gulf nations, which the US and Israel seem indifferent to

- While the current scenario is sustainable for the US in the long run, this is only partially true for Iran

- Iran admits that the US is not negotiating in good faith

- Israel is attacking and occupying Southern Lebanon


So, what is the Iranian end game here? They don't want to fight, they don't want to give up, they don't want to go nuclear, they don't want to escalate...

What strategy is this?

The Iranian strategy is to simply implode and explode the economies of the allies of the USA into an inflation bomb and then cause a global recession, even a depression if they get lucky. Thought that was obvious to all ?? That recession will eventually feed into the USA itself given how interconnected western economies are. Oil price shock is coming soon, given how countries are eating into their strategic reserves to try and pretend all is ok for now.

Iran does not care if the global economy goes into a recession, or depression given how disconnected they are from the global economy( side effect of the sanctions that Iran is under).

Iran's strategy is to impose a real cost on the USA so that future presidents don't do this again. Yes, Israel does not care about the economy given all that cheap oil Azerbaijan gives it via the good services of Türkiye .. Israel lives off the free USA cheque book and also in a consequence free world so that is not really an indicator of anything, and Donald Trump is too stupid to realize what is coming his way right now.

The current scenario is not sustainable for the USA, I am not sure why you think that is the case ? The USA needs the straits open and flowing again, that is why it is desperately trying to move ships across, but the volume is so small and insignificant, that it is not really worth talking about right now. The "ongoing" operations are because fundamentally Trump refuses to accept that he has lost the war, and he will as a gambler, roll the dice again after the world cup again.

Once that inflation bomb hits and the global economy starts going red, then the real negotiations will start and the USA will have to negotiate in "good faith".

 

[BananaRepublic]

Oh I hope they take out some big building in Dubai and Tel Aviv at the same time....,

This is purely my opinion.

But I think Trump has told Israel it’s on its own if Iran hits back.

US has been pulling back and cannot see Trump reassembling the armada.

But there’s a risk Israel may use tactical nukes - if Iran pins Israel into a corner.

So, Iran better have an answer.

Anyway, don’t think US public will tolerate an escalation that involves the US.

US public now despises Israel.

 

[925boy]

He has no the patience required to do so. It will take billions of dollars and years to soften the power of Irán. He is gambling again. And if Irán Falls the next will be Turkey to reach finally Pakistán. They don't want any powerful muslim country capable of deterring Israel.

My response to this comment repeated on here frequently:

If US and Israel destroy Iran, they will come after Turkey, the. Pakistan ..

If US or/and Israel is able to dismantle Iran's power,there is no other Muslim country to tear down again, because US can dismantle the leftover Muslim nations using only economic pressure and manipulation- Turkey and Pakistan, including pretty useless Egypt are all economically vulnerable and weak - it will take US a maximum of a few years of heavy sanctions for Turkey and Pakistan to either enter civil war or collapse economically, and without a good economy, no nation can survive and thrive today. I can even go further and say turkey has already been bought out and controlled economically and strategically (NATO) by the west, so it's on you all saything this to first show us how turkey is a threat to the west in the first place, becuse if you can't, then there's no need discussing whether US and Israel will come after Turkey after they successfully attack Iran. Some of you have really been successfully manipulated via Western media, and thinking that turkey is some kind of threat to the west today proves that, easily and clearly.

 

[lightning f57]

I personally feel Iran should boycott the fifa world cup altogether, call the team back and SHIT on US/Canada/Mexico altogether,

and then RAISE the fucking costs for Canada, US, Mexico on their ships/tankers in the Hormuzzz, even blow up a couple!!

I don't think Mexico or Canada import oil from PG.

The US can't be trusted, repeated lies breaking agreement carrying out warcrimes. Iran needs to think of worst case where its low intensity war all through the trump regimes reign. So they need to exact high costs, usually these billionaires hurt in the pocket more.