Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

I think you have only "heard of the 12 day war", but we were actually here and following every news in detail.

Israel would've been sent back to the stone age without the US air defense and intel.
Not to mention that it was the US that bombed Fordow and Natanz, proving its direct involvement in the war beyond any reasonable doubt. Unless you are retarded, which is another issue.

Just American, Europeans and Arab states not including everything else they used to support a butcher like bibi

 

[Meengla]

Very un-precedented, specially if Israel is not able to respond:

As I had said in this thread: There wouldn't have been the ceasefire in early April if that was not needed by Israel and America. Iranians are not stupid to see that and thus they are capitalizing on the gains prior to the ceasefire.
But some people have disappeared from this thread--both Iranians and Pakistanis.

 

[Pakistan First]

Ever hear of 12 day war? Israel did it without US backing.

Navy destroyers intercepted Iranian missiles, service confirms

The U.S. 6th Fleet positioned five Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers in the Eastern Mediterranean to provide defense support to Israel.

www.navytimes.com

You guys even awarded your sailors for participating in the 12 day war and shooting down Iranian BMs.

Navy destroyer crew awarded Armed Forces Service Medal for downing Iranian missiles

USS Arleigh Burke’s sailors are the latest service members to be recognized for helping thwart Iranian drone and missile attacks.

taskandpurpose.com

Israel will always use United States and its citizen tax payer dollars when all that is available to it. Why would Israel risk going alone?

 

[ShapurII]

Not true

True promise 1 was after embassy in Damascus was hit

It was Iranian consulate in Syria that Israel bombed pre-emptively. Technically, it was our embassy and per international law, it was a violation of our sovereignty. A legitimate reason to strike back. This time, it's a pre-emptive strike over something unrelated to Iran.

It shows that Iran has become bolder and is no longer afraid of striking Israel without casus belli. This can partially restore Iran's lost deterrence against the rabid dog.

 

[Shags101]

He is troll, dont take him serious and put him in ingnore list.

True I did as well I’m going back to doing it sometimes it’s just entertaining to see that comes from his posts it’s funny at times but it got boring really fast

 

[unconventional]

@SolarWarden

I think you have been given a comprehensive response by multiple posters about your incorrect post about the 12 day war, so I don’t have much to add there.

One thing I wanted to add that wasn’t mentioned: don’t forget who requested the end to hostilities/ceasefire at the end of the 12 day war. This has been documented by many Western analysts, who don’t exactly have the reputation of being pro-Iran or even fair to both sides of the conflict.

It shows Israel cannot fight a prolonged war against Iran (with or without US support). It can only adopt shock and awe tactics, which can work against Gaza; but can’t even work against Hezbollah in Lebanon, forget against Iran.

 

[Shags101]

Navy destroyers intercepted Iranian missiles, service confirms

The U.S. 6th Fleet positioned five Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers in the Eastern Mediterranean to provide defense support to Israel.

www.navytimes.com

You guys even awarded your sailors for participating in the 12 day war and shooting down Iranian BMs.

Navy destroyer crew awarded Armed Forces Service Medal for downing Iranian missiles

USS Arleigh Burke’s sailors are the latest service members to be recognized for helping thwart Iranian drone and missile attacks.

taskandpurpose.com

Israel will always use United States and its citizen tax payer dollars when all that is available to it. Why would Israel risk going alone?

Fake news never happened Israel can’t shutdown Hezbollah by themselves in a country 150 plus times smaller than Iran but will definitely defeat Iran by itself……just joking about it never happened but I agree ignore troll boy

 

[Immortals]

 

[Meengla]

It was Iranian consulate in Syria that Israel bombed pre-emptively. Technically, it was our embassy and per international law, it was a violation of our sovereignty. A legitimate reason to strike back. This time, it's a pre-emptive strike over something unrelated to Iran.
It shows that Iran has become bolder and is no longer afraid of striking Israel without casus belli. This can partially restore Iran's lost deterrence against the rabid dog.

Bullies only stop when they know they could be beaten back. As simple as that. In my 4th grade of schooling in Pakistan, there was a bully guy who'd beat me up. He was taller, stronger and maybe older too. He was called 'the coat guy' because he used to wear a blazer and he terrorized everyone. But my brother was in 5th grade in the same school and was even taller and stronger and I still remember my brother beat the shit of the bully and I was never touched after that.

 

[Jalz]

Ever hear of 12 day war? Israel did it without US backing.

Majority of the interceptions during the war were carried out by THAAD and SM-3. Not israel's own air defenses. And yes the US provided israel with refueling tankers for there airforce. They also had two aircraft carriers off the coast of israel so American jets can intercept shaheds

 

[Falcon29]

Israel appears entirely dependent on the US when it comes to striking another nation state

It's looking for a green light + consistent supply of US munitions and intelligence+ defensive US shield against missiles + entire weight of centcom behind Israeli military in event other nation state carried out extensive retailation

Trump likely doesn't want that scenario to play out but Netanyahu could bypass him and consult Congress members and Pentagon for a green light

But it Trump actually puts pressure MAGA congressmen must get behind him or choose between him and pro-Israel lobby

 

[pakistanitarzan]

If true then what kind of signal is this!!

It is def not good timing and may not be favorable outcome for Pakistan

 

[hasn2009]

Not true

True promise 1 was after embassy in Damascus was hit

Yeah but attack on your Embassy is considered attack on your country.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Watandar]

It is def not good timing and may not be favorable outcome for Pakistan

It increases the importance of the mediators and reminds the combatants about the urgency of resolving this conflict. So far the US is not able to reject Israeli meddling and sabotage to end this useless war and that is not the fault of the mediators.