Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Pakistan First said:
I think Iran had to narrow down its targets. As, Iran do not have unlimited stock of missiles. It could be 10-20% remaining of pre-war status.

Also after 100 days of surviving and fighting back, there's lot of Iran's military hardware is already used in the war, many destroyed too by the US. So the powerful countries in GCC like KSA and UAE have more incentive to join the war now when Iran is weakened. So Iran is this time around little careful. Qatar on other hand is using diplomacy with Iran and not choosing hostility at all.
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Yes, this is a possible theory but has not stopped Iran adding Jordan to the list.
 
ShapurII said:
Brent and WTI prices are falling below $90 per barrel. Not good for Iran.
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Exactly.

The markets no longer believe Iran can hinder the USA enough to disrupt global trade. When that perception is lost, the jig is up.

Iran's ONLY real world leverage has evaporated due to a poor response to the recent American actions. This is a criminal act of dropping the ball from the Iranian leadership.

Where was the overwhelming missile barrage against ANY single target?? Where was the saturation drone swarm against even a single USN ship??
 
Meengla said:
Tucker Carlson is relentless in attacking Israel. He tries to balance his attack by also targeting Iran and other Muslim forces in that region but clearly his venom is against Israel and very cleverly fuses Christians as victims along with Palestinians as victims. He is not preaching to the choir, which would be the Muslim world: He is preaching to the Christians of the West. Very clever.
I can't say I am a fan of this guy but he is on the right side of history at the moment and that's good enough for me.
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His messaging technique resonates better than “death to Israel..”.
 
FUB said:
We have a saying in the old country, dore good eestadee va migi lengesh koon. Retard or not, they fought against nuclear-armed nations, along with the brainless donkeys across the Persian Gulf, and inflicted major damage on the Americans, Satanistan, and the donkeys.
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Yeah its a sad situation now. Iran's pulled down the panties of pretty much everybody in the region and exposed everyone as a bunch of ass clowns.

This is a serious problem now because the respect/ integrity/ sovereignty of everyone has been compromised big time.

Everybody was in da water paddling around........but now that the tides run out......wes all can see now that who was swimmin nekkid no?........:p
 
It will be interesting to see what was targeted by the Americans in this latest escalation. My bet is still on a de-escalation.


US and Iran wrangle over frozen funds as they edge toward interim deal, Iranian sources say​


DUBAI, June 11 (Reuters) - Efforts to reach an interim deal to end hostilities between Iran and the U.S. have intensified, three Iranian sources and a European official told Reuters on Thursday, despite strikes launched by both sides, as the warring parties discuss how to release frozen Iranian funds.
The sources said Iran and the United States were still exchanging messages over ‌details of a memorandum of understanding amid the ongoing confrontation between Tehran and Washington.

The Iranian sources said a political understanding had been reached, but some issues remained to be discussed in detail, including a mechanism for the release of tens of billions of dollars of Iranian oil revenues frozen in foreign banks.
"Iran wants $6 billion to $12 billion of its frozen funds to be released to Tehran, while Washington wants to release funds in stages for humanitarian goods and rejects returning funds to Iran outright," said one of the Iranian sources.
A ⁠senior European official said: "Right now, talks are focusing very precisely on the technical details and the financial amount — in short, the level of liquidity available to Iran."
 

Iran maritime body says Hormuz completely closed 'until further notice'​


Iran’s new body overseeing the Strait of Hormuz confirmed a complete closure order for the strategic waterway until further notice, after the Revolutionary Guards announced the move overnight, AFP reports.

“Due to the tensions caused by the aggression of the American forces in the region and the announcement made last night by the Iranian armed forces, the Strait of Hormuz will be closed until further notice,” the Persian Gulf Strait Authority said in a post on X.

“Applicants who have been granted a transit permit are asked to be patient and wait for instructions from the PGSA”.


 

Turkiye says Iran, US must stop attacks and resume talks​


Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan says that Iran and the United States must stop their renewed attacks and return to negotiations to avoid any further escalation, Reuters reports.

Speaking in Sofia, Fidan said the recommendation to both sides from Turkiye, which is in close contact with Washington, Tehran, and Pakistan, was to aim to conclude talks over a peace deal.
 

EU should be ready to place sanctions on Iran: Italian PM​


Italian Prime Minister Georgia Meloni said the European Union should be ready to place new sanctions on Iran if the crisis in the Middle East doesn’t come to an end, Reuters reports.

“If Tehran continues down the wrong path…the EU must be ready to increase pressure through new targeted measures,” Meloni was cited as saying in parliament by Reuters news agency.

She also criticised Israel’s far-right Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir for his comments on Italy, which she called “unacceptable for Italy and also undignified for Israel”.
 

China 'strongly urges' immediate halt to Mideast war operations​


China “strongly” urged an immediate halt to military operations in the Middle East, as the United States launched fresh attacks on Iran, AFP reports.

“China strongly urges the relevant parties to immediately cease military operations, return to dialogue and negotiation, respond to the mediation efforts of relevant countries, and achieve a comprehensive and lasting ceasefire as soon as possible,” foreign ministry spokesman Lin Jian told a regular press conference in response to a question about the Middle East situation.
 

Iran foreign ministry says US strikes render ceasefire 'practically meaningless'​


Iran’s foreign ministry has condemned the latest US strikes on the country, saying the attacks rendered the nearly two-month ceasefire “practically meaningless”, AFP reports.

In a statement, the ministry said “the illegal and criminal attacks perpetrated by the United States in recent hours not only constitute a flagrant violation… but also render the ceasefire practically meaningless”.

It added that the “responsibility for the extremely serious consequences of this criminal act lies with the leaders of the United States”.
 
Meengla said:
It will be interesting to see what was targeted by the Americans in this latest escalation. My bet is still on a de-escalation.


US and Iran wrangle over frozen funds as they edge toward interim deal, Iranian sources say​


DUBAI, June 11 (Reuters) - Efforts to reach an interim deal to end hostilities between Iran and the U.S. have intensified, three Iranian sources and a European official told Reuters on Thursday, despite strikes launched by both sides, as the warring parties discuss how to release frozen Iranian funds.
The sources said Iran and the United States were still exchanging messages over ‌details of a memorandum of understanding amid the ongoing confrontation between Tehran and Washington.

The Iranian sources said a political understanding had been reached, but some issues remained to be discussed in detail, including a mechanism for the release of tens of billions of dollars of Iranian oil revenues frozen in foreign banks.
"Iran wants $6 billion to $12 billion of its frozen funds to be released to Tehran, while Washington wants to release funds in stages for humanitarian goods and rejects returning funds to Iran outright," said one of the Iranian sources.
A ⁠senior European official said: "Right now, talks are focusing very precisely on the technical details and the financial amount — in short, the level of liquidity available to Iran."
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Iran was attacked by the US / Israel and they killed its leaders. US did a lot of damage to Iran in its bombing campaign. Now to end the war, Iran wants compensation. Iran already dropped the demand of war reparation cost but Iran is demanding its frozen assets to be unfrozen. Its a very just demand. But Problem is Trump till date bashes Obama for giving money to Iran (planes full load of cash that he tells everytime). So, the idea of giving money to Iran is incomprehensible for Trump. That's the main reason for the conflict to prolong. Trump will happily spend 100s of billions on war but won't give 6 to 12 billion to Iran. The zionist lobby which controls Trump also pressures him to not give a dime to Iran. But I think eventually, US will have to give something. The pressure tactics / occasional strikes are just negotiations to push Iran in making concessions.

Iran might be asking for 20 billion + sanctions relief + some fee for strait management. Trump would be saying, no way the strait cannot be tolled, and no sanctions relief but take 1 billion and end this. That's in addition to no enrichment commitment. Iran would be saying Fk-off. It seems both sides are way too far from any middle ground for peace deal.
 
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