Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
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The latest American war crime in Iran.
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Its important to remember that the U.S hit 2 water reservoirs in "Self Defense"!
 
Hayabusa said:
I won't bet on this.

US and Israel are bloodlusting nations. They will definitely nuke the shit out of Iran the moment it detects even a possible pre-emptive strike.
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They can be vampires for all I care. As I said, I believe states act as rational agents in game theory. Eventually, every rational actor decides based on profit vs cost.

Suppose that you hate me with a passion and I tell you that I either give you $10K or I start to kill all of your family. Now, you can kill me, but before you do that, I will have killed a few of your family members. Which one will you choose?

If they nuke the shit out of Iran, Iran will nuke the shit out of Israel and guess who will lose more? Iran is 100x the size of Israel with natural topography while Israel is a tiny flat land.

Besides that, Iran has already proven second strike capability. Some of our missile cities cannot be destroyed even with nuclear strikes, giving Iran second strike capability without possessing the nuclear triad.
 
OldTwilight said:
No , it's logical. ,

USA/Uk won 2 world war by prolonging those wars... We can't win a prolonged conflict against them

They are at top of the current power structure , it's not logical for them to enter this kind of lose lose conflict,but for us this existential
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Even if it's an existential crisis, it should be targeted against US and Israeli cities. That way they can destroy the very fabric of society. It's all or nothing.

Using tactical nukes against carriers is going to justify them to use nukes on Iran and they will definitely ensure Iran won't be able to even launch more nukes.

It's in the end a suicidal thought. I rather bet on Iran having some amount of ballistic missiles left rather than sacrifice itself over a war it could possibly win.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Ceasefire means, stop shooting at each other, it is a "status quo" of where you are at that point. Ceasefire does not mean withdraw from terrority, just a pause in "fighting".
It is important that people are precise in their understanding of english and its use, and its implications.
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I know what I am talking about; seen plenty of analysts saying what Iran's 'ceasefire on all front' means. First step per Iran would be a total ceasefire on all fronts and then for Israel to follow the Hezbollah demand to withdraw. Otherwise, Israel would gladly do just a 'ceasefire' and stay in its occupied south Lebanon territory.
 
Yasser76 said:
Interesting is the countries Iran is not attacking. Saudi, UAE and Qatar.

I think they are going directly for bases that are staging the US forces attacking them. Seems like this is only Jordan, Kuwait and Bahrain.

Saudi and Qatar increasingly becoming just neutral players here. Surprised UAE has been left alone
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If there aren't
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You reap what you sow.
 
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ShapurII said:
If I were the Supreme Leader of Iran, I would use tactical nukes against US aircraft carriers and reserve my strategic nukes to target Israel and major US cities. That's the only language that the United States would understand perfectly.
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Good thing you will never be the Supreme leader!
 
Watandar said:
Trump admin are bullies who whine when they receive a punch back.

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Trira Parsi is not an anti-war critic, he is just brutally honest in his logical and clinical assesment on the situation and future pathways based on open source available information.
 
Kyussis said:
Good thing you will never be the Supreme leader!
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I don't want to be the "Supreme Leader" either. :)

It's a title only loser clowns like Ayatollahs or commies like Kim Jung-Un choose. I was only discussing a hypothetical scenario for ending the war with the US, before it gets out of hand and Iran is sent back in time for decades.

@Musings @Persian Gulf Also, please tell me if spamming my posts with laughing emojis is against the forum rules or not. We already have a thumbs down button. So, there is no reason to do that anymore.
 
Hayabusa said:
Even if it's an existential crisis, it should be targeted against US and Israeli cities. That way they can destroy the very fabric of society. It's all or nothing.

Using tactical nukes against carriers is going to justify them to use nukes on Iran and they will definitely ensure Iran won't be able to even launch more nukes.

It's in the end a suicidal thought. I rather bet on Iran having some amount of ballistic missiles left rather than sacrifice itself over a war it could possibly win.
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Very well said IMHO
 
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