Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

If Iran wants to actually deter Israel, they need to hit back with much bigger salvos.

It is glaringly obvious by now that the US has zero control over Israel and can't back up its own words. Israel clearly wants to wreck this whole peace deal, so now it is all on Trump to figure out the next move.

Does he want to pull off a peace deal and put an end to this embarrassing mess? Or is he just going to keep letting Netanyahu call all the shots? The ball is not in Iran's court anymore. They will retaliate as Israel has a second time in a row crossed the red lines.

It's entirely up to the Trump to step in and put a leash on his rabid dog, or forever be considered a dog on a leash, to the entire world.
 
Hayabusa said:
If Iran wants to actually deter Israel, they need to hit back with much bigger salvos.

It is glaringly obvious by now that the US has zero control over Israel and can't back up its own words. Israel clearly wants to wreck this whole peace deal, so now it is all on Trump to figure out the next move.

Does he want to pull off a peace deal and put an end to this embarrassing mess? Or is he just going to keep letting Netanyahu call all the shots? The ball is not in Iran's court anymore. They will retaliate as Israel has a second time in a row crossed the red lines.

It's entirely up to the Trump to step in and put a leash on his rabid dog, or forever be considered a dog on a leash, to the entire world.
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There is only one logical course of action...

US should bomb Israel :)
 
Persian Gulf said:


Israel does not expect Iran to respond to Israel bombing Beirut
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Zion is seeking to summit before the deal... in their calculus... their win is simply carving out Lebanon or at the very least secure it as an inevitable outcome.
Here, Iran would want to be assertive because no deal that preserves Iranian gains is worth the paper. Speaking of paper and the deal... much is being made out it... while it is a known fact that orange has no word... his morality is no morality... it is a seismograph during an earthquake... next phone call away from going 180. It's half life is extremely short... however there are compulsions such as economic distress or unviable solutions in the table... apparently optics do a number on orange. And that he walked away from a number of agreements including JCPOA among others... check'em out... just to rename them under his thumb. A sort of legacy or image building exercise. Something that isn't really going to plan as anything he has touched so far... EXCEPT his personal finances. Perhaps the ultimate goal all along.

Anyways, I'd be wary of anything signed... both because of this schizophrenic narcissist but also because zion has different goals all along and they could care less what he orange dishes out ultimately. That means Iran will have to be proactive in staking items claims and assume or hope that things should start walking their way because it says so on the paper. He wants SoH to open before lifting sanctions... he wants to tie Iranian funds release to its performance... none of these are tangibles!!! None that have a barometer... none that he cannot go about face... none that guarantee Iranian priorities. So, start moving hard and fast ... setting terms... enforcing code in SoH... helping you allies... securing loopholes... weaknesses etc.
Because he'll start doing exactly that... not to mention zion... you don't sit on your laurels to achieve results... you double and triple up!
You speed to the finish line...
All of the straits and the whole of gulf should be hostile to any venture coming from across the globe... forever!
Make deals in Iraq that help them transition to independence...
Here both Pakistan and Turkiye have a role to play... along with Syria... so that the airspace and land is not used by foreign aggression... by buying those with small horizons and large bellies to fill.
Ultimately it is this break that will pave the way for real winners.
 
Hayabusa said:
If Iran wants to actually deter Israel, they need to hit back with much bigger salvos.
It is glaringly obvious by now that the US has zero control over Israel and can't back up its own words. Israel clearly wants to wreck this whole peace deal, so now it is all on Trump to figure out the next move.
Does he want to pull off a peace deal and put an end to this embarrassing mess? Or is he just going to keep letting Netanyahu call all the shots? The ball is not in Iran's court anymore. They will retaliate as Israel has a second time in a row crossed the red lines.
It's entirely up to the Trump to step in and put a leash on his rabid dog, or forever be considered a dog on a leash, to the entire world.
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For months, it has been Trump's call to pull the rabid dog Netanyahu back. But with the 'deal' so close, Trump will have to decide and some analysts saying he will impose the American interests over Israel. Trump can't avoid his decision.
I don't think the status quo can last for long.
 
Hopefully the Iranians strike hard 1 minute before the signing if the Israelis strike and they go back and forth hopefully Trump decides to stay out of it
 
This is a petulant childish attempt to spoil a deal, which will happen as the child lashes out in anger. The big boys have decided the future of the middle east, through power and the limits of power. That´s how things go. Believing that a few bombs in beirut or southern lebanon are going to prevent a deal is silly. but when israel goes too far, iran will see it as a violation of the deal, bomb israel, and force america to reign them in anyway. this is how i see it having happened and happening in the future.

imagine preventing a deal with a few airstrikes. imagine russia and the us/eu being close to clinching a deal and thinking a few drones from elensky can stop that.
 
As long as Israel as a entity exists, there wont be any lasting peace in Middle east, that entity was created by then global powers to keep the wars going, selling weapons, land grabs and killing innocent people using different pretext, America has totally failed, and has embarrassed itself in front of the world on how Israel is making a super power dance on its finger tips.
 
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