Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Jagga Badmash]

I don't understand it as 60-days of large number of people in talks. I think a Pakistan-hosted big event on Friday in Geneva with high level officials from Iran and America to sign off on an agreement and then mostly behind scene negotiations for 60 days.
Geneva is chosen because of travel ease, especially for the Americans.

Hosting a major international event for around 60 days would place significant logistical, security, and administrative pressure on Islamabad, requiring prolonged high-alert measures, extensive coordination, and considerable resources. In addition, with foreign dignitaries present, there is always the risk that political or religious groups could announce protests or dharnas at short notice, creating security and diplomatic challenges. Considering these factors, the decision appears to have been a well-thought-out solution aimed at reducing disruption, ensuring smooth event management, and maintaining stability throughout the duration of the event.

 

[Jagga Badmash]

Iranian official says end of war includes end of Israel’s occupation of Lebanon​

Looks like international pressure will need to ramp up on Israel, this is only way you can curtail this apartheid states ambition. Iran has the means to pile on the pressure now.

Just now I read news that Nitin Yahoo announces to annex large part of Lebanon for un-announced period of time for its security reason and they rejected Islamabad pact.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iranian official says end of war includes end of Israel’s occupation of Lebanon​

Looks like international pressure will need to ramp up on Israel, this is only way you can curtail this apartheid states ambition. Iran has the means to pile on the pressure now.

It will then be "Israel vs the world" if Israel does not move out of all of Lebanon, given that the agreement is key to getting oil supplies back on track and for the global economy to reset itself and to try and lower inflation for these countries.

It is times these global countries impose an economic cost on Israel, through sanctions if they do not adhere to the terms of the agreement.

Israel does what it does because it does not face the wrath of consequences of its actions, and that needs to change for the world to become a more peaceful and safer place.

 

[Meengla]

Hosting a major international event for around 60 days would place significant logistical, security, and administrative pressure on Islamabad, requiring prolonged high-alert measures, extensive coordination, and considerable resources.

Yes, but I am not aware of hosting so many people for 60 days. Probably just negotiations between teams after the big event. Geneva is supposed to be only for the grand event on coming Friday 19th June.
Or am I misunderstanding something?

 

[Meengla]

It will then be "Israel vs the world" if Israel does not move out of all of Lebanon, given that the agreement is key to getting oil supplies back on track and for the global economy to reset itself and to try and lower inflation for these countries.

Indeed, it is now Israel (and its agents in America) vs the rest of the world.
There are plenty of skeptics about this Deal, especially some Iranians. They should watch the meltdown of the Israelis and their supporters in America to see how bad the Deal is for Israel. One must always pay attention to what your adversary thinks about geopolitical events.

 

[Meengla]

Good for Erdogan to give the credit to Pakistan for working hard to prevent a regional war between Muslim countries. There were some reports of how Israelis were using False Flag operations to trigger wars between Muslim countries. But I believe Turkey also played a significant role in that. Still, thank you Erdogan!

 

[PakAl]

 

[PakAl]

 

[Flotilla]

Good for Erdogan to give the credit to Pakistan for working hard to prevent a regional war between Muslim countries. There were some reports of how Israelis were using False Flag operations to trigger wars between Muslim countries. But I believe Turkey also played a significant role in that. Still, thank you Erdogan!

Whoever understand a bit about international politics and diplomacy must recognize Pakistani paper.
IMO it is much more important this MOU than a final arrangement. To reach this point Pakistani envoys and high representatives transited by ceasefire violations, subsequents threats and accusations by the Entity and their mass media warmongers.
This 60 days will (God wants) ease tensions and give the opportunity to check good faith of US in curbing sanctions and flowing money. So the real dirty job was right now, not after this MOU.

 

[PakAl]

 

[PakAl]

 

[Ali_Baba]

About the only thing the orange idiot has ever said, that i think is factually correct and I can agree with.

It does seem like Trump is waiting for the completion of signing on Friday, before starting to apply pressure on Israel to comply and withdraw from Lebanon.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Good for Erdogan to give the credit to Pakistan for working hard to prevent a regional war between Muslim countries. There were some reports of how Israelis were using False Flag operations to trigger wars between Muslim countries. But I believe Turkey also played a significant role in that. Still, thank you Erdogan!

Israel is not happy with Pakistan's role in defusing a wide scale arab war through its false flag operations, and also helping the USA and Iran to come to a deal.

In Sindoor #1 we saw a covert Israeli presence in India that took part in operations against Pakistan, could we see a future of a more overt operation of the IDF IAF going to India to take part in Sindoor #2 in the guise of "operating against terrorists"? Given that India and Israel are now a married couple, I do see the possibility of more overt operations. (imho).

 

[hasssanali8998]

8 confirmed killed in the crash. It was a test flight. Details on that were not released.

Normal crew complement is 5.

yes plus 2 Boeing employees, they were testing a new radar system

 

[Meengla]

Israel is not happy with Pakistan's role in defusing a wide scale arab war through its false flag operations, and also helping the USA and Iran to come to a deal.
In Sindoor #1 we saw a covert Israeli presence in India that took part in operations against Pakistan, could we see a future of a more overt operation of the IDF IAF going to India to take part in Sindoor #2 in the guise of "operating against terrorists"? Given that India and Israel are now a married couple, I do see the possibility of more overt operations. (imho).

Israel's mouthpiece in America are people like Lindsey Graham. It was significant that Graham, in an official hearing, openly targeted Pakistan for allegedly sheltering the Iranian jets on Pakistani airbases. And recently Graham has shown his displeasure over the upcoming MOU, which will be hosted by Pakistan in Geneva.
So far, I believe, historically Pakistan and Israel have not been openly hostile to each other as both have their hands full in their respective regions. But in the new order emerging where the Israelis are rightly cautious of the nascent regional alliance involving Pakistan, there is no doubt in my mind that the relations will be more hostile between Pakistan and Israel. And we all know where India stands in the regional order.