Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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unconventional
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A trap to try to get the US to defend Israel against Iranian attacks (the bare minimum US involvement expected), even if the US doesn’t participate in attacks against Iran.
But even the Israelis must know they cannot wage the war against Iran alone for more than a few days without US assistance.
Israelis are champions at the sprint, but fail in the long run, something Iranians excel in.
That_Guy
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Lulldapull
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But then why go after Assad or Qazzafi?
Both were secular liberal and anti Zio no?
Why the Mongol AL-Turkiyan listen to Mossad-CIA?
MH.Yang
Trusted Member
I do not know whether the U.S. government realizes that the Khomeini-led Iranian government has weathered the Islamic Revolution, the Iran-Iraq War, and the U.S.-Iran War—and emerged victorious from all three. This is similar to the situation in China after the CCP government survived the Civil War, the War of Resistance Against Japan, and the Korean War, emerging victorious from each.
At this point, the legitimacy of the Khomeini-led government’s rule in Iran has become unshakable.
Before the war, the Iranian government’s rule was already teetering on the brink due to issues such as inflation, but Khamenei used martyrdom to prove that the Iranian government’s mistakes were merely methodological, not a failure of values. Moreover, Trump delivered the fruits of victory in the U.S.-Iran war. Thus, Trump and Israel have, in fact, thoroughly stabilized the Iranian regime.
From a Chinese perspective, we have now clearly seen through the strategic foolishness and decadence of the U.S. government. China’s future actions will certainly be even more radical.
I see that many Americans are still questioning the victory of Iran's current government. Are you aware that during the American Revolutionary War, the United States drove out the British and did not achieve a superior casualty ratio(The United States lost 70000 people, France lost 30000 people, totaling 100000 people. British and German mercenaries lost a total of 10300 people)? Are you aware that while Western media claims Ukraine has defeated Russia, Ukraine's casualty ratio not only far exceeds that Russia, but it has also lost over 20% of its territory? The authority of Iran's current government is already akin to a combination of Washington and Lincoln, and economy will begin to soar due to the lifting of sanctions. Do you still not realize that this is an epic victory?
At this point, the legitimacy of the Khomeini-led government’s rule in Iran has become unshakable.
Before the war, the Iranian government’s rule was already teetering on the brink due to issues such as inflation, but Khamenei used martyrdom to prove that the Iranian government’s mistakes were merely methodological, not a failure of values. Moreover, Trump delivered the fruits of victory in the U.S.-Iran war. Thus, Trump and Israel have, in fact, thoroughly stabilized the Iranian regime.
From a Chinese perspective, we have now clearly seen through the strategic foolishness and decadence of the U.S. government. China’s future actions will certainly be even more radical.
I see that many Americans are still questioning the victory of Iran's current government. Are you aware that during the American Revolutionary War, the United States drove out the British and did not achieve a superior casualty ratio(The United States lost 70000 people, France lost 30000 people, totaling 100000 people. British and German mercenaries lost a total of 10300 people)? Are you aware that while Western media claims Ukraine has defeated Russia, Ukraine's casualty ratio not only far exceeds that Russia, but it has also lost over 20% of its territory? The authority of Iran's current government is already akin to a combination of Washington and Lincoln, and economy will begin to soar due to the lifting of sanctions. Do you still not realize that this is an epic victory?
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MH.Yang
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Iran's third ranking official in name, but in reality, the second ranking official with real power, the Speaker of the Iranian Parliament, Calibaf, has taken on the role of Iran's Special Representative for China Affairs. Such a high-ranking official in charge of relations with China means that the Iranian government is likely to fully tilt towards China after the war, and it also means that Iran and Saudi Arabia will reconcile comprehensively, and China and Pakistan will begin to increase their involvement in the Middle East situation. The Gulf situation will undoubtedly undergo significant changes. Are those who still believe that Trump has won the war really that foolish?
Gripen9
Trusted Member
Hillary is a staunch neo liberal zio. During her presidency run, she said first thing she'd do if she became president was bomb Iran. Now just seeing the writing on the wall and fluttering like a weathervane.
Hakwa Nadro
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Vance slams Israelis criticising US-Iran deal, warns them against alienating their only strong ally
US Vice President JD Vance sharply criticises extremist Israeli cabinet ministers for attacking US-Iran peace deal and President Trump, reminding them that most weapons protecting Israel are built by US and funded by American taxpayers.
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Much of the weapons protecting Israel over the last 90 days "were built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars," says Vance. / Reuters
7 hours ago
US Vice President JD Vance has issued an extraordinary rebuke to Israeli critics of the Iran peace deal, warning them not to alienate their "only powerful ally" left in the world.
In a briefing at the White House on Thursday, Vance told members of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's extremist cabinet members to "wake up and smell the reality," amid growing tensions between Netanyahu and US President Donald Trump.
"Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time, and he happens to be the head of state of the world superpower," Vance said.
"If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world."
The two countries jointly launched the war on Iran on February 28 but Trump has chastised Israel for continuing attacks on Lebanon that threatened to derail the deal with Tehran.
"Over the last three months, two-thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars," Vance added.
"The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump -- and anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the president of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation."
In an interview with the New York Times published on Thursday, Vance directly named Israeli national security minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich as having attacked the deal.
"I guess my response to them would be — what is your exact proposal? You're a country of nine million people. You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have," Vance told the Times.
RelatedTRT World - Trump conditionally backs Netanyahu before Israel's elections as US-Iran deal strains their ties
Trump demands complete truce, including in Lebanon
Trump himself has been increasingly critical of the high death toll from Israeli invasion, particularly in Lebanon.
"When two drones are shot into the desert and drop harmlessly, you don’t have to knock down buildings in Beirut. They could behave better, and frankly they could do a better job," Trump said in a press conference at the G7 summit in France on Wednesday.
Trump on Thursday urged Israel and other Middle Eastern countries to stick to the truce.
"We expect a complete Ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon, Hezbollah, and Israel. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" Trump said on his Truth Social network.
Israel has said it will not abide by the US-Iran peace deal.
On Thursday, Israel killed three Lebanese people in its attacks.
Lebanon's official National News Agency (NNA) reported that "an enemy drone targeted a car" in the Kfar Tibnit area, killing two people.
In the neighbouring village of Zebdine, another drone killed one more person, NNA said.
Israel's military, meanwhile, announced the killing of one of its soldiers the night before in an incident in south Lebanon that also left seven others wounded.
UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres' spokesman, Stephane Dujarric, said that peacekeepers in Lebanon had also reported exchanges of fire on Thursday.
"So far today, 143 trajectories of projectiles were observed. Of these, 119 were attributed to the Israel Defense Forces (Israeli army), with the remainder to Hezbollah," Dujarric said at a daily briefing.
"Yesterday, 364 projectile launches were observed, of which 330 were attributed to the IDF (Israeli army) and 34 to Hezbollah."
www.trtworld.com
US Vice President JD Vance sharply criticises extremist Israeli cabinet ministers for attacking US-Iran peace deal and President Trump, reminding them that most weapons protecting Israel are built by US and funded by American taxpayers.
Share
7 hours ago
US Vice President JD Vance has issued an extraordinary rebuke to Israeli critics of the Iran peace deal, warning them not to alienate their "only powerful ally" left in the world.
In a briefing at the White House on Thursday, Vance told members of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's extremist cabinet members to "wake up and smell the reality," amid growing tensions between Netanyahu and US President Donald Trump.
"Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time, and he happens to be the head of state of the world superpower," Vance said.
"If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world."
The two countries jointly launched the war on Iran on February 28 but Trump has chastised Israel for continuing attacks on Lebanon that threatened to derail the deal with Tehran.
"Over the last three months, two-thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars," Vance added.
"The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump -- and anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the president of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation."
In an interview with the New York Times published on Thursday, Vance directly named Israeli national security minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich as having attacked the deal.
"I guess my response to them would be — what is your exact proposal? You're a country of nine million people. You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have," Vance told the Times.
RelatedTRT World - Trump conditionally backs Netanyahu before Israel's elections as US-Iran deal strains their ties
Trump demands complete truce, including in Lebanon
Trump himself has been increasingly critical of the high death toll from Israeli invasion, particularly in Lebanon.
"When two drones are shot into the desert and drop harmlessly, you don’t have to knock down buildings in Beirut. They could behave better, and frankly they could do a better job," Trump said in a press conference at the G7 summit in France on Wednesday.
Trump on Thursday urged Israel and other Middle Eastern countries to stick to the truce.
"We expect a complete Ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon, Hezbollah, and Israel. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" Trump said on his Truth Social network.
Israel has said it will not abide by the US-Iran peace deal.
On Thursday, Israel killed three Lebanese people in its attacks.
Lebanon's official National News Agency (NNA) reported that "an enemy drone targeted a car" in the Kfar Tibnit area, killing two people.
In the neighbouring village of Zebdine, another drone killed one more person, NNA said.
Israel's military, meanwhile, announced the killing of one of its soldiers the night before in an incident in south Lebanon that also left seven others wounded.
UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres' spokesman, Stephane Dujarric, said that peacekeepers in Lebanon had also reported exchanges of fire on Thursday.
"So far today, 143 trajectories of projectiles were observed. Of these, 119 were attributed to the Israel Defense Forces (Israeli army), with the remainder to Hezbollah," Dujarric said at a daily briefing.
"Yesterday, 364 projectile launches were observed, of which 330 were attributed to the IDF (Israeli army) and 34 to Hezbollah."
TRT World - Vance slams Israelis criticising US-Iran deal, warns them against alienating their only strong ally
US Vice President JD Vance sharply criticises extremist Israeli cabinet ministers for attacking US-Iran peace deal and President Trump, reminding them that most weapons protecting Israel are built by US and funded by American taxpayers.
www.trtworld.com
Hassan Al-Somal
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The Ansar-Allah in Yemen had over 2-year fight with both US and "?Israel", and the rest of AoR including Iran did not directly intervene on their part. They also paid heavy price in terms of material and human resources in that prolonged faith. So just like Hezbollah went through a period of re-org, Ansar-Allah could be going through a similar mode.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Yeah, except that Ansar-Allah exists because of Iran. The Saudis failed to invade Yemen because of Iran. They have missiles because of Iran. They owe their entire reign over Sanaa and their upgrade from AK-47s and sandals to MRBMs and a government to Iran. Not really the same thing.
Also, they fought with the US for 3 months only. And absorbed way fewer strikes than Iran during these 3 months. I don't get when or where this hypothetical 2-year war has happened.
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