Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Pakistani Dragon]

... Are you betting on the US just doing the same again next time plus more stuff in order to make the whole gambit more appealing to Europeans? And you expect different outcomes?

European nations only involve themselves in wars where theres very low risk of death to European soldiers.

Examples are airstrikes on Serbia, Libya, Syria.

When Iranian offensive capability is neutered further, European militaries will be more than happy to join in.

Please don't take US-Europe public drama too seriously. They're all on the same page behind closed doors.

 

[PK781]

Where are these troops based? Where will they launch from? Where did you get that from ????

If there is any land attack on Iran, then should the country that hosts land attack forces have its entire oil infrastructure completely destroyed ?? Not a light tap as has been the case so far, but complete decimation? Should the Iranians deliver that message right now? ie If your country hosts this, then all gloves are off? If that is Iraq, then Iran should tell Iraq, there are serious consequences for hosting land invasion forces for that type of action and deliver serious damage that will take years to rebuild ?

we all know the west/us/israel won't rest easy on this one, they will be back to get their revenge. They won't risk themselves with land invasions. Time will tell as to when/how it happens but they're preparing hard.
all these pauses/ceasefires everywhere are all now temporary in nature and can flareup at any time

 

[FUB]

IRI new leaders forced Trump’s hand and they showed Oman can not be trusted . Back to square

 

[FUB]

 

[zzw001]

If they didnt get involved this time around, when the circumstances massively favoured the Americans and Israelis, why would they want to do it next time?

America will force the Europeans to join by blackmail, tariff threat, nato withdrawal, sanctions etc. Europeans are reliant on Americans to an enormous degree and that gives the US leverage. America will likely make sure the Europeans (and Japanese / Australians / Canadians) join next time given that they lost this time so to US strategists the combined forces of US and Israel were not enough to subjugate Iran and they needed reinforcements.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

... Basically, Israelis wanted to duplicate their 'success' against Hezbollah in Iran by eliminating the leadership in Iran--and I can't say that strategy would not be effective even against Iran.

Israelis were tasked to take out the Iranian leadership.

They did this dirty work with great precision and success.

... But sometimes by early April, Americans had realized that there was no 'victory' and decided to cut their losses...

US military had requested 6-8 weeks (42-56 days) of airstrikes to hit all military targets in Iran.

They successfully struck all targets they were tasked with within 40 days (28/02/2026-08/04/2026).

... and approached Pakistan to help with an exit.

Now, you can call that a conspiracy theory.

The US doesn't need Pakistan's help with any "exit" as there are no US forces in Iran like they were in Afghanistan.

Next phase of the war will be all about destroying the IRGC. How much of the economic infrastructure will be destroyed in the process is what's being planned for at the moment.

The same thing happened in Serbia.

 

[VCheng]

Next phase of the war will be all about destroying the IRGC. How much of the economic infrastructure will be destroyed in the process is what's being planned for at the moment.

There may be no need to do that, if certain accommodations can be negotiated with the IRGC as part of the final settlement.

 

[Flotilla]

Israelis were tasked to take out the Iranian leadership.

They did this dirty work with great precision and success.


US military had requested 6-8 weeks (42-56 days) of airstrikes to hit all military targets in Iran.

They successfully struck all targets they were tasked with within 40 days (28/02/2026-08/04/2026).


Now, you can call that a conspiracy theory.

The US doesn't need Pakistan's help with any "exit" as there are no US forces in Iran like they were in Afghanistan.

Next phase of the war will be all about destroying the IRGC. How much of the economic infrastructure will be destroyed in the process is what's being planned for at the moment.

The same thing happened in Serbia.

Stop lying.
They wanted to overthrown the Government. And they failed miserably.
After 13000 sorties they didn't destroy even half of the missile launchers how the hell can they destroy from the Air the IRGCN composed by two hundreds thousands of personnel?.

 

[FUB]

 

[Meengla]

Israelis were tasked to take out the Iranian leadership.

They did this dirty work with great precision and success.


US military had requested 6-8 weeks (42-56 days) of airstrikes to hit all military targets in Iran.

They successfully struck all targets they were tasked with within 40 days (28/02/2026-08/04/2026).


Now, you can call that a conspiracy theory.

The US doesn't need Pakistan's help with any "exit" as there are no US forces in Iran like they were in Afghanistan.

Next phase of the war will be all about destroying the IRGC. How much of the economic infrastructure will be destroyed in the process is what's being planned for at the moment.

The same thing happened in Serbia.

Problem with people like you is that no matter the evidence, you keep repeating your predictions. Analysts after analysts are saying that this war is a major debacle for America. I'd add to that if indeed the Petro Dollar is doomed then, yes, a strategic defeat of America. Until then, it is a debacle but no more than that. However, it is a strategic loss for Israel and that's why there is breast beating in Israel and its surrogates in America.

To rebut you: No, while I don't rule out that as long as the Trump/Netanyahu axis sits in power there won't be another major war. But I will make my own prediction: If today Trump has a heart attack and Vance becomes the POTUS, then you'd see a rapid drawdown of the American forces. I consider it not a war for America: I have long considered a war for Israel, done by a compromised POTUS Trump who maybe finally seeing his folly.

Come back to me after 3 or 6 months and be prepared to admit you were wrong! I will do so if I would be proven wrong then. There is already an Iranian guy here--I won't name him--who said months ago that in 'a few weeks' or 'a few months', Iran would implode because of the Blockade. He has been proven wrong. As you probably will too!

 

[tsunset]

Israelis were tasked to take out the Iranian leadership.

They did this dirty work with great precision and success.


US military had requested 6-8 weeks (42-56 days) of airstrikes to hit all military targets in Iran.

They successfully struck all targets they were tasked with within 40 days (28/02/2026-08/04/2026).


Now, you can call that a conspiracy theory.

The US doesn't need Pakistan's help with any "exit" as there are no US forces in Iran like they were in Afghanistan.

Next phase of the war will be all about destroying the IRGC. How much of the economic infrastructure will be destroyed in the process is what's being planned for at the moment.

The same thing happened in Serbia.

Is your girlfriend Jewish?

 

[Ali_Baba]

TREASON also ??

 

[Watandar]

TREASON also ??

Pahlavi and his supporters openly collaborated with Israel and western governments to conduct espionage, terrorism and finally war on Iran. Not once but multiple times. If that isn't treason I don't know what is.

A takeaway I have from this is the West exploits diaspora communities for its own geo-political advantage. It's the weaponization of immigration but in a different manner than facilitating illegal immigration into a country, to cause political problems. We have seen this previously with the Cuban, Venezuelan, Afghan and Iraqi diaspora. I see the Baloch diaspora being exploited the same way in the future against Pakistan/Iran.

 

[tsunset]

TREASON also ??

Corruption on earth is also treason, nearly all of those charges carry the 100% death penalty so it doesn't matter anyway

The only issue is how to bring him back to Iran

The only realistic way is to ask the US for the deportation to be included in the deal in exchange of concessions

This is probably the top 1 case with the most serious charges at once in IRI history

 

[PakAl]