Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

Unsure how much of this new wave of attacks is posturing and getting an upperhand in the negotiations, we are too far down the line and both sides have too much to lose for going back to full scale war.

I think take out all the social media noise/click baits, this will be just like the last few attacks and over soon

Its definitely posturing as both sides want influence over the SOH and are trying to wrestle sone kind of control.

Trump is so stupid he went from it being all about the nuclear issue to the SOH issue now.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

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[BHAN85]

Why Iran attack civil ships at time of talks?
OR was it someone else who attacked ships?

Because the ships got American orders to ignore Iran orders.

Iran has been a fool biting the bait in this NATO summit timing.

USA has been weeks testing Iran reactions, and Iran has done what USA wanted when USA wanted.

 

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They knew, they know, but negotiations money is always a good thing, even when you know it will end in usual American backstabbing

 

[Nawnaw1]

Because the ships got American orders to ignore Iran orders.

Iran has been a fool biting the bait in this NATO summit timing.

USA has been weeks testing Iran reactions, and Iran has done what USA wanted when USA wanted.

Actually that's not a logical conclusion. US has indeed been testing Iran, and Iran has been showing resolve. If they wouldn't attack those ships, then what? Just open the strait and ignore Iran completely?

 

[Musings]

The ceasefire deal is over.

- US President Donald Trump says the US-Iran ceasefire is "over", after both countries exchanged strikes

- "I don't want to deal with them anymore, they're scum," he says. "It's just a waste of time dealing with them, they're liars"

- He says negotiators can continue to talk, but "I think they're wasting their time"

- Late on Tuesday, US Central Command said it fired at more than 80 Iranian targets, including over 60 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps small boats

Iran fires at American military sites in Bahrain and Kuwait after US hits dozens of Iranian targets

Nato chief Mark Rutte says the US strikes were "necessary", accusing Iran of violating an agreement to end the war over attacks on tankers in the Strait of Hormuz.

www.bbc.com

You are quoting Trump as if his word is gospel. He is a born liar.
Him calling anyone scum - like pot calling the kettle black. The world thinks he is a scumbag.

 

[Salza]

Iran FM, speaker, President should remain low profile now. They will be Israeli prime targets from nowonwards so that the talks can be completely killed. Iran just played into the hands of Israel by getting too much arrogant. Attacking Qatar vessal, who were supposed to be playing a mediator role, is a very stupid tactical move by IRGC. Trump govt has been already under severe criticism with in US, especially by pro Israeli lobbies, to scuttle the deal these things won't help.

 

[Salza]

Next 36-48 hours are very crucial whether both parties return to the table or back to square one with war.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Iran FM, speaker, President should remain low profile now. They will be Israeli prime targets from nowonwards so that the talks can be completely killed. Iran just played into the hands of Israel by getting too much arrogant. Attacking Qatar vessal, who were supposed to be playing a mediator role, is a very stupid tactical move by IRGC. Trump govt has been already under severe criticism with in US, especially by pro Israeli lobbies, to scuttle the deal these things won't help.

So what is Iran supposed to do? Do everything the Aipac lobby says, so Trump can be under less pressure? Lol. (offensive word removed by mod) , this is do or die. We'd rather destroy the entire middle east including the entity than give up. Imagine, giving up to a bunch of obese people and noses.

 

[BHAN85]

Actually that's not a logical conclusion. US has indeed been testing Iran, and Iran has been showing resolve. If they wouldn't attack those ships, then what? Just open the strait and ignore Iran completely?

If I were Iran I had waited to after NATO summit.

USA was interested in this timing for a reason.

So we can expect NATO (European) warships in Hormuz coming months.

 

[BHAN85]

Iran FM, speaker, President should remain low profile now. They will be Israeli prime targets from nowonwards so that the talks can be completely killed. Iran just played into the hands of Israel by getting too much arrogant. Attacking Qatar vessal, who were supposed to be playing a mediator role, is a very stupid tactical move by IRGC. Trump govt has been already under severe criticism with in US, especially by pro Israeli lobbies, to scuttle the deal these things won't help.

If kill Khamenei didn't avoid the negotiations, then kill President and FM certainly won't do neither.

 

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[Salza]

So what is Iran supposed to do? Do everything the Aipac lobby says, so Trump can be under less pressure? Lol. (offensive word removed by mod) , this is do or die. We'd rather destroy the entire middle east including the entity than give up. Imagine, giving up to a bunch of obese people and noses.

You should ******g accept your limitations and play smart here. Needs to think strategically for long term gains. Cancelation of talks is not in Iran's interest. And you cannot destroy entire Middle east with your destruction you just cannot . Time will tell you that.

In my opinion latest mess is all Iran created one by attacking Qatari and Saudi vessel. There is something serious leadership issues at Iran's end.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

People in Tehran are still chanting revenge, revenge... marg bar sazeshgar [down with government] and kill yankee heads