Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

At some point though the iranians are going to have to look in a mirror. They spent the last 50 years screaming at america and isreal, now they got their war and they are constantly looking for a "ceasefire" or "peace agreement".

On the one hand they like to talk about how their fighting isreali/zionism, but when the real actual war comes they are always looking for a way out of it.

Their enemy hasn't changed, if anything over the last 50 years it only became more Zionist. Either fight the war, or keep your mouth shut and keep your head low until your strong enough to do something about it. Because its obvious that Ballistic missiles alone isn't going to do it.

Right now the americans/isrealis are getting to pump the iranians at will and then the iranians have to sit on another ceasefire which allows their enemy to restock and to prepare new targets. rinse and repeat.

The Mullah regime honestly is absolutely fucking stupid.

some hard truths here.

IRGC generals spent decades promising that if Israel attacks Iran their jets won't have air bases to land back in, and Iran will fire 10,000 missiles at Israel and raze Israeli cities to the ground. they even installed a 25 year countdown timer in Tehran for the end of Israel.

and then when war comes they all die in the same building and Iran fires 20 missiles per day at Israel and achieves 1-2 impacts per day, and is very keen to accept a ceasefire and avoid a resumption of war.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I have one question to Iranians:

You expect Houthis to close BaM but did you close the SoH when Houthis were getting bombed?

does Iran give weapons and funds to Houthis, or Houthis give weapons and funds to Iran?

 

[Persian Gulf]

They have. But you don't launch them the first day of the war. In an all out bomb campaign you must wait until the stocks decrease and they give more time to launch safely volleys of missiles. Attacked CVN Gerald Ford, even if she was not directly hit was weeks before war started. So let's be patient.

you need to launch large salvo to penetrate their missile defences. firing 2-3 per day won't achieve anything. but we never saw a big salvo in 40+ days of war. it is suspicious. Houthis launched larger anti ship missile salvos than Iran.

 

[retaxis]

This war showed america refuses to lose soldiers....in a war...

How are u going to start a dog eat dog world where you must fight to survive and your sitting there too afraid to lose soldiers.

This makes any American threat feel soft as fk as we know russia and china are not scared to lose a lot of soldiers in a war.

 

[K2RULEZ]

I’m guessing the Iranian response is about to come it better be go big or go home honestly they just need to concentrate as much fire on to one location and see if they can get their point across

US military bases within the region and the choking of Strait of Hormuz. In a few days you will see Trump changing positions.

 

[Eşbah]

does Iran give weapons and funds to Houthis, or Houthis give weapons and funds to Iran?

Currently, the salaries of Yemeni state employees and a significant portion of the Houthi budget are funded by the Saudis. Riyadh is paying both sides in Yemen.

 

[Shags101]

Currently, the salaries of Yemeni state employees and a significant portion of the Houthi budget are funded by the Saudis. Riyadh is paying both sides in Yemen.

Houthis are funded by Saudi Arabia first time I ever heard that I don’t believe it but @Persian Gulf would know more than I do about that

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

I'm sure Iran will react. What do you think is the best for Iran to do now, at the moment (except building nukes, almost all of us agree)?

Lunch thousands missiles against yankee vassals in Persian gulf

Ya roomie roomie ya zangie zangi

 

[SaadH]

Both are as the first one is Khwarij

Those nominating Trump the child raping zionist turd for two nobel prize twice are not khawarij, but actual momins?

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Hitting PGCC in response is useless, theyre already gone, UAE is gone for at least 20 years in terms of tourism and moral repair costs, Kuwait has also been hit too many times

Iran should extend its range and aim Mediterranean crusader states like Italy or Greece or simply hit Ukraine as a response

Donald Trump was in Ankara, Turkiye explaining to world leaders how he had ordered military strikes on Iran yesterday and his plans for more airstrikes today.

I don't know if people know this but Ankara is only less than 1,000 km away from the Iranian border.

A few days earlier, we saw visuals of millions of Iranians chanting "Death to America" while carrying their red revenge flags, yet no Iranian had the guts to target Donald Trump in Ankara. On the other hand, Iran's anointed Supreme Leader Khamenei Jr continues to hide for more 4 months in his own country.

What does that tell us about IRGC's warnings and threats to attack the US?

 

[Pakistan First]

does Iran give weapons and funds to Houthis, or Houthis give weapons and funds to Iran?

Yes but Iran don't own their lives. Houthis have their own following, own country, own struggle. If they get some weapons from Iran as an ally it does not mean Iran can command them.

 

[hussain0216]

US military bases within the region and the choking of Strait of Hormuz. In a few days you will see Trump changing positions.

This is ALL about the HORMUZ

In talks the U.S wants Hormuz open and free and iran to act like the losing side

Iran refuses to do so and demands that the Hormuz toll is now a fact, as Iran needs to recoup losses and also demands all sanctions are ended

The U.S wanted the Hormuz completely open, whilst discussions were ongoing

Iran wasn't inclined to do that, especially when the U.S keeps playing around with the MoU and Lebanon is still being attacked



What we have is a stalemate, but the long term reality is still the same

IF the Hormuz is closed due to conflict and oil and fertiliser is strangled then, it will have a multi state knock on effect

A lot of negatives are happening due to the U.S bonds and debt

Iran's immediately needs to respond, the U.S can't get away with just attacking without response and Iran need to hit it's list of targets if it has it


It then needs to go back to closing the Hormuz, until U.S plays ball

Trump is a idiot, he is trying to force iran to COMPLY

 

[K2RULEZ]

This is ALL about the HORMUZ

In talks the U.S wants Hormuz open and free and iran to act like the losing side

Iran refuses to do so and demands that the Hormuz toll is now a fact, as Iran needs to recoup losses and also demands all sanctions are ended

The U.S wanted the Hormuz completely open, whilst discussions were ongoing

Iran wasn't inclined to do that, especially when the U.S keeps playing around with the MoU and Lebanon is still being attacked



What we have is a stalemate, but the long term reality is still the same

IF the Hormuz is closed due to conflict and oil and fertiliser is strangled then, it will have a multi state knock on effect

A lot of negatives are happening due to the U.S bonds and debt

Iran's immediately needs to respond, the U.S can't get away with just attacking without response and Iran need to hit it's list of targets if it has it


It then needs to go back to closing the Hormuz, until U.S plays ball

Trump is a idiot, he is trying to force iran to COMPLY

Absolutely. The Americans cannot accept Iran controlling the Strait. Just like the nukes, the Strait has become a non-negotiable.

Trump is in a difficult position. He is desperately looking for a quick win before the mid term elections. He isn't going to get any.

 

[Pakistan First]

Donald Trump was in Ankara, Turkiye explaining to world leaders how he had ordered military strikes on Iran yesterday and his plans for more airstrikes today.

I don't know if people know this but Ankara is only less than 1,000 km away from the Iranian border.

A few days earlier, we saw visuals of millions of Iranians chanting "Death to America" while carrying their red revenge flags, yet no Iranian had the guts to target Donald Trump in Ankara. On the other hand, Iran's anointed Supreme Leader Khamenei Jr continues to hide for more 4 months in his own country.

What does that tell us about IRGC's warnings and threats to attack the US?

LOL! That will be quick and swift suicide to even attempt an assassination of US president. Iran knows that. Don't take Iran's threats literally.

 

[Persian Gulf]